Toyota Runaway Cause: Electronic Throttle/Cruise Control?
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From: Al Falfa on 6 Nov 2009 19:35 "Cathy" <clfr(a)roadrunner.com> wrote in message news:mpGdnalRK6QDIGnXnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "Al Falfa" <crop(a)eastforty.fld> wrote in message > news:4af43a0f$1(a)newsgate.x-privat.org... >> >> <greenpjs(a)neo.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:2g58f59nbed07b1v862ct16rutl1jf7o1q(a)4ax.com... >>> The shift level does NOT rest in the Neutral position. If yours does, >>> you should get it repaired. To shift to neutral, just move the lever >>> to the left and let go. This action is just like going into drive or >>> reverse without the down or up part of the motion. >> >> I just returned from my car where I tried what you describe. My >> spring-loaded shift lever *always* returns to a dot just to the right of >> the "N." I started the car and shifted to "D". The lever returned to >> the dot just to the right of "N" but the display indicator correctly >> showed it was in "D." I followed your suggestion, moving the stick from >> the at-rest dot to "N" several times. Nothing happens. The car remains >> in "D." To get it to "N" I had to first move it to "D" (or P or R) and >> then back to "N." >> >> I have a 2010 IV. Will someone else with a 2010 please verify what I >> found? > > I'm not absolutely positive I'm following correctly, but... think I am, & > tried it today since I'd not yet had the need to shift to neutral. > > Had the car on (but stationary) and in D - & of course the shifter was in > its "home" spot (the dot), then shifted to N & let go. Of course the > shifter immediately reverted to its "home" spot again, but the dash > display did confirm that it was then in neutral. (IOW, I didn't need to > shift it to the D or B or R location before going to N, it just went into > neutral when I shifted it to N.) > > As a tangent to this (use of gears): The salesman said he didn't know why > they bothered with the "B" gear and that I'd prob. never use it, but I've > used it twice so far, when coming down steep hills. Used it as I would've > before, when I would've down-shifted to help w. the braking. OTOH, the > "EV" mode - unless I run out of gas someday, within half a mile of a gas > station.... at this point I don't really see myself using that little > gizmo mode. > > Cathy > Thanks for trying this Cathy. I learned in another group that to get it in neutral it has to be held in the N position for two seconds. I tried that and it does work. I was just moving it to N and releasing. By moving into the other positions I was, apparently, dwelling on the N position long enough. It was nice to learn this alone in my parked car and not careening wildly down the road with my passengers screaming in terror. The lesson: Pull the knob to the left and hold it there with the brake fully and continuously engaged.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 7 Nov 2009 11:19 On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:26:39 -0800, john wrote: > A Prius owner tried to resume her cruise control, and then the car > accelerated out of control. > > http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=8982147 > > http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/ The new cruise controls do not cancel below 30 MPH like the old ones did. It's in the Owner's Manual.
From: Mike Hunter on 7 Nov 2009 16:23 During my years selling Toyotas, I always believe Toyota buyers were not too swift by agreeing to pay us so much more to buy one of our Toyotas, rather than one of the domestics we also sold. However, I would expect they would be savvy enough to place the tranny in neutral and apply the brakes, rather than lose control of their car and run off a cliff, but apparently some of them are not very savvy. LOL "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.11.07.16.19.08.951682(a)e86.GTS... > On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:26:39 -0800, john wrote: > >> A Prius owner tried to resume her cruise control, and then the car >> accelerated out of control. >> >> http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=8982147 >> >> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/ > > The new cruise controls do not cancel below 30 MPH like the old ones did. > > It's in the Owner's Manual. > > >
From: jr92 on 8 Nov 2009 01:17 On Nov 4, 10:26 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > A Prius owner tried to resume her cruise control, and then the car > accelerated out of control. > > http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=8982147 > > http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/ I had the same problem happen to me many years ago. My '76 Pinto had the throttle stick wide open. After about 8 minutes, and a top end speed of about 67mph, I found a cotton field and ran it into it, slowing me down enough that I could jump out of the car before it hit a fence post. I wasnt hurt, but it cost me 94 bucks to replace the bumper that was busted, Point being, how the hell does a Toyota PRUIS "ACCELERATE OUT OF CONTROL" under ANY conditions?????????????
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 8 Nov 2009 00:13
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:17:13 -0800, jr92 wrote: > On Nov 4, 10:26 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> A Prius owner tried to resume her cruise control, and then the car >> accelerated out of control. >> >> http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=8982147 >> >> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/ > > > > I had the same problem happen to me many years ago. My '76 Pinto had the > throttle stick wide open. After about 8 minutes, and a top end speed of > about 67mph, I found a cotton field and ran it into it, slowing me down > enough that I could jump out of the car before it hit a fence post. I > wasnt hurt, but it cost me 94 bucks to replace the bumper that was busted, Could have definitely put that car into neutral, shut off the engine and coasted to a stop...> > > > Point being, how the hell does a Toyota PRUIS "ACCELERATE OUT OF > CONTROL" under ANY conditions????????????? I think the correct term is "Operator Error". |