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From: Al Falfa on 5 Nov 2009 20:39 "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.11.05.23.06.36.741140(a)e86.GTS... > On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:12:20 -0600, Al Falfa wrote: > >>> And why call 911? Did they figure Scotty was going to beam them out of >>> the car? >>> >>> Ed >> Under the circumstances, panic was very likely a factor. Putting one's >> car in neutral under such unusual circumstances is not a conditioned >> response. > > Last time something like this happened to me, I was 19. I also am not a > CHiP. I knew enough to put the car in neutral and kill the motor. > I don't know if the Lexus is like the Prius but there is nothing intuitive about shifting from a Prius from Drive to Neutral. The shift lever is always resting in the neutral position. After playing with this for a while it seems the fastest way to get from drive to neutral is to pull it into the drive slot and then move back to the neutral slot. Is this what you did when you were 19?
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 5 Nov 2009 22:47 On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:39:56 -0600, Al Falfa wrote: > > "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2009.11.05.23.06.36.741140(a)e86.GTS... >> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:12:20 -0600, Al Falfa wrote: >> >>>> And why call 911? Did they figure Scotty was going to beam them out of >>>> the car? >>>> >>>> Ed >>> Under the circumstances, panic was very likely a factor. Putting one's >>> car in neutral under such unusual circumstances is not a conditioned >>> response. >> >> Last time something like this happened to me, I was 19. I also am not a >> CHiP. I knew enough to put the car in neutral and kill the motor. >> > I don't know if the Lexus is like the Prius but there is nothing intuitive > about shifting from a Prius from Drive to Neutral. The shift lever is > always resting in the neutral position. After playing with this for a > while it seems the fastest way to get from drive to neutral is to pull it > into the drive slot and then move back to the neutral slot. Is this what > you did when you were 19? Nah. I pushed in the clutch and shifted into neutral.
From: greenpjs on 6 Nov 2009 07:29 On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:39:56 -0600, "Al Falfa" <crop(a)eastforty.fld> wrote: > >"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >news:pan.2009.11.05.23.06.36.741140(a)e86.GTS... >> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:12:20 -0600, Al Falfa wrote: >> >>>> And why call 911? Did they figure Scotty was going to beam them out of >>>> the car? >>>> >>>> Ed >>> Under the circumstances, panic was very likely a factor. Putting one's >>> car in neutral under such unusual circumstances is not a conditioned >>> response. >> >> Last time something like this happened to me, I was 19. I also am not a >> CHiP. I knew enough to put the car in neutral and kill the motor. >> >I don't know if the Lexus is like the Prius but there is nothing intuitive >about shifting from a Prius from Drive to Neutral. The shift lever is >always resting in the neutral position. After playing with this for a while >it seems the fastest way to get from drive to neutral is to pull it into the >drive slot and then move back to the neutral slot. Is this what you did >when you were 19? The shift level does NOT rest in the Neutral position. If yours does, you should get it repaired. To shift to neutral, just move the lever to the left and let go. This action is just like going into drive or reverse without the down or up part of the motion.
From: Al Falfa on 6 Nov 2009 10:00 <greenpjs(a)neo.rr.com> wrote in message news:2g58f59nbed07b1v862ct16rutl1jf7o1q(a)4ax.com... > The shift level does NOT rest in the Neutral position. If yours does, > you should get it repaired. To shift to neutral, just move the lever > to the left and let go. This action is just like going into drive or > reverse without the down or up part of the motion. I just returned from my car where I tried what you describe. My spring-loaded shift lever *always* returns to a dot just to the right of the "N." I started the car and shifted to "D". The lever returned to the dot just to the right of "N" but the display indicator correctly showed it was in "D." I followed your suggestion, moving the stick from the at-rest dot to "N" several times. Nothing happens. The car remains in "D." To get it to "N" I had to first move it to "D" (or P or R) and then back to "N." I have a 2010 IV. Will someone else with a 2010 please verify what I found?
From: Cathy on 6 Nov 2009 19:21
"Al Falfa" <crop(a)eastforty.fld> wrote in message news:4af43a0f$1(a)newsgate.x-privat.org... > > <greenpjs(a)neo.rr.com> wrote in message > news:2g58f59nbed07b1v862ct16rutl1jf7o1q(a)4ax.com... >> The shift level does NOT rest in the Neutral position. If yours does, >> you should get it repaired. To shift to neutral, just move the lever >> to the left and let go. This action is just like going into drive or >> reverse without the down or up part of the motion. > > I just returned from my car where I tried what you describe. My > spring-loaded shift lever *always* returns to a dot just to the right of > the "N." I started the car and shifted to "D". The lever returned to the > dot just to the right of "N" but the display indicator correctly showed it > was in "D." I followed your suggestion, moving the stick from the at-rest > dot to "N" several times. Nothing happens. The car remains in "D." To > get it to "N" I had to first move it to "D" (or P or R) and then back to > "N." > > I have a 2010 IV. Will someone else with a 2010 please verify what I > found? I'm not absolutely positive I'm following correctly, but... think I am, & tried it today since I'd not yet had the need to shift to neutral. Had the car on (but stationary) and in D - & of course the shifter was in its "home" spot (the dot), then shifted to N & let go. Of course the shifter immediately reverted to its "home" spot again, but the dash display did confirm that it was then in neutral. (IOW, I didn't need to shift it to the D or B or R location before going to N, it just went into neutral when I shifted it to N.) As a tangent to this (use of gears): The salesman said he didn't know why they bothered with the "B" gear and that I'd prob. never use it, but I've used it twice so far, when coming down steep hills. Used it as I would've before, when I would've down-shifted to help w. the braking. OTOH, the "EV" mode - unless I run out of gas someday, within half a mile of a gas station.... at this point I don't really see myself using that little gizmo mode. Cathy |