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From: Mike Hunter on 25 Nov 2009 19:09
You are confused, again! Moderates Republicans are the real neo-cons,
dummy. Most Republican, like the majority of Americans, ARE conservative.
Perhaps you need to look up the meaning of the word "neo."


"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> You are correct - it's not a single point issue. I would expect any
>> supporter of any candidate to be able to discuss just ONE "point"
>> coherently. Their choice. Any single point. But I have higher
>> expectations than you do.
>
> The Republican party has found a version of Ronald Reagan that knows even
> less, that is even more shallow, and that is even more dishonest.
>
> Palin could very well win the 2012 Republican nomination. She simply has
> to win the most votes in multi-candidate primaries. This would have been
> unthinkable in the old Republican party, but so many moderates have
> abandoned the Republican party and have become Democrats or Independents
> (as a result of the neo-cons), that she could now easily win the
> nomination.
>
> Fortunately, she could not do even as well as McCain did in the general
> election. Many of McCain's voters voted for him in spite of Palin, but
> there are still enough old-school Republicans that would not vote for
> someone that is so unqualified and lacks the knowledge required to perform
> the job.


From: Jeff Strickland on 25 Nov 2009 19:29

"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4b0d8fb7$0$1629$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> You are correct - it's not a single point issue. I would expect any
>> supporter of any candidate to be able to discuss just ONE "point"
>> coherently. Their choice. Any single point. But I have higher
>> expectations than you do.
>
> The Republican party has found a version of Ronald Reagan that knows even
> less, that is even more shallow, and that is even more dishonest.
>
> Palin could very well win the 2012 Republican nomination. She simply has
> to win the most votes in multi-candidate primaries. This would have been
> unthinkable in the old Republican party, but so many moderates have
> abandoned the Republican party and have become Democrats or Independents
> (as a result of the neo-cons), that she could now easily win the
> nomination.
>
> Fortunately, she could not do even as well as McCain did in the general
> election. Many of McCain's voters voted for him in spite of Palin, but
> there are still enough old-school Republicans that would not vote for
> someone that is so unqualified and lacks the knowledge required to perform
> the job.


The old school Republicans don't like McCain. Ironically, they like Palin
far more than you think. Many McCain voters voted for him because of Palin,
not in spite of her.

You are aware that the only reason McCain made the ticket is because of
cross-party voters in Open Primary states, right? Had he not collected the
cross-party voters during the primaries, any of several other Republican
candidates would have beat him to the nomination. Guillian, Huckabee, and
Romney are all more liked by Republicans than McCain, but McCain collected
the cross party voters that did not stay with him in November.




From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 25 Nov 2009 21:32
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:12:58 -0800, SMS wrote:

>> You are correct - it's not a single point issue. I would expect any
>> supporter of any candidate to be able to discuss just ONE "point"
>> coherently. Their choice. Any single point. But I have higher
>> expectations than you do.
>
> The Republican party has found a version of Ronald Reagan that knows even
> less, that is even more shallow, and that is even more dishonest.

And certainly can't so any worse than what's currently in the WH. He's in
so far over his head down looks like up.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 25 Nov 2009 21:34
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:29:43 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote:

>
>
> The old school Republicans don't like McCain. Ironically, they like Palin
> far more than you think.

I liked them both. McCain the middle of the roader, and Palin the
Conservative.

Instead we wind up with someone who, after pushing the few agendas he had
down our thraot (or, as many as he could before people woke the hell up)
and now is immobilized by indecision.



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