From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:56:02 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:

> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
> wrote in news:L441o.11872$KT3.3287(a)newsfe13.iad:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:06:11 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>>
>>> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
>>> wrote in news:mEN0o.20916$OU6.11895(a)newsfe20.iad:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:59:11 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everything(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com>
>>> wrote
>>>>> in news:4C4377C9.3000806(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/18/2010 3:10 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>>>> Jane Galt <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:Xns9DB8CC1C9AFCAJaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dr. Alveda King, niece of Martin Luther King Jr., said on his
>>> program
>>>>>>>> last night that she will be joining Glenn Beck on August 28th at
>>> the
>>>>>>>> Lincoln Memorial for his "Restore The Honor" rally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That works.......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't that make her a racist?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Because she is joining Glen Beck for a rally? What are you
>>>>> smoking?
>>>>
>>>> Hey, if she's going to a Glenn Beck rally, she must be a racist! And
>>>> a Religious wreck, too...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And Beck must really be a black related to the King. That'll shake
>>> up all his followers.
>>
>> Could be. Someone once told Mike Jackson, "Lighten up!"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> And he did. Ever wonder why Michael and Janet were never in the same
> picture together? Hmmmm, put a wig and falsies on Michael.......

No, that was Jackson and Elizabeth Taylor.



From: Michael Ejercito on
On Jul 20, 4:24 am, Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:09:19 -0500, Liberal Hypocrite Detector
>
>
>
> <grey_ghost471-newsgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in
> >news:6s6946dv0hdovta6h17fsvppqbddlfdp07(a)4ax.com:
>
> >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:14:12 -0500, Liberal Hypocrite Detector
> >><grey_ghost471-newsgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>Only if avoidance means joining the Texas Air National guard, learning to
> >>>fly a Mach plus interceptor and then standing alerts.
>
> >> No. Only if it means getting in a unit that was already at 100%
> >> capacity...which was ILLEGAL. And getting into a unit that flew jets
> >> that were no longer used in Viet Nam SO HE COULDN'T GO. He claimed he
> >> wanted to..then why join a unit that can't be deployed?
>
> >Um, no.
>
> >http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0185.shtml
> >George W. Bush's military service began in 1968 when he enlisted in the
> >Texas Air National Guard after graduating with a bachelor's degree in
> >history from Yale University. The aircraft he was ultimately trained to fly
> >was the F-102 Delta Dagger, popularly known as "the Deuce." The F-102 may
> >have been old but was far from useless, and it continued to serve in large
> >numbers with both Air Force and Air National Guard units well into the
> >1970s. Furthermore, the F-102 was deployed to Vietnam throughout most of
> >the conflict, and the aircraft proved its value early by deterring North
> >Vietnamese pilots from crossing the border to attack the South. Perhaps
> >more importantly, the F-102 and its Air National Guard pilots performed a
> >vital role in defending the continental United States from nuclear attack.
>
> >http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-102a-ops.htm
> >Four F-102s were sent from Clark AB, P. I., to South Vietnam in March 1962,
> >after radars had detected low flying, unidentified aircraft along the
> >Cambodian border. This started a series of rotations every 6 weeks by Navy  
> >EA-1F all weather fighters and USAF F-102s to Tan Son Nhut. The rotation
> >ended in May 1963 due to base overcrowding. Nonetheless, from the summer of
> >1963 to mid 1964, Thirteenth Air Force conducted no-notice deployments of
> >F-102s to South Vietnam and brief training flights to Tan Son Nhut and Da
> >Nang. The small number of aircraft  committed to SEA air defense before
> >1965 tripled by the end of 1966. At that time 12 F-102s stood alert in
> >South Vietnam (6 at Bien Hoa and 6 at Da Nang) and another 10 in Thailand
> >(6 at Udorn and 4 at Don Muang). Little change occurred in 1967 and 1968,
> >the Air Force keeping a minimum of 14 F-102s on 5 minute alert with the
> >remainder of the force on 1 hour call. F-102 operations  in SEA ended in
> >December 1969 (The last F-102 squadron at Clark was inactivated. However, a
> >few F-102s remained at the Royal Thai Air Base of Don Muang until the
> >summer of 1970.) with a remarkable safety record. In almost 10 years of
> >flying air defense and a few combat air patrols for SAC B-52s, just 15 F-
> >102s were lost.
>
> His unit was at 100% when he was allowed to join. That's been
> documented repeatedly.
Documented repeatedly by WHOM?

>
> There were NO NEW F-102 units be sent to Viet Nam WHEN HE JOINED.
> Therefore HE COULD NOT GO and his daddy knew that. The only one flying
> them were AD Air Force.
>
And there was some sort of guarantee that it would not change in
the future?


Michael
From: Michael Ejercito on
On Jul 19, 7:22 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <6s6946dv0hdovta6h17fsvppqbddlfd...(a)4ax.com>,
> mrLook...(a)yahoo.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:14:12 -0500, Liberal Hypocrite Detector
> > <grey_ghost471-newsgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in
> > >news:4ev8465mv0ufra0jg9t6ic27hnrle8j7cb(a)4ax.com:
>
> > >> He avoided serving and then claimed he could have gone. That was a
> > >> lie.
>
> > >Only if avoidance means joining the Texas Air National guard, learning to
> > >fly a Mach plus interceptor and then standing alerts.
>
> > No. Only if it means getting in a unit that was already at 100%
> > capacity...which was ILLEGAL. And getting into a unit that flew jets
> > that were no longer used in Viet Nam SO HE COULDN'T GO. He claimed he
> > wanted to..then why join a unit that can't be deployed?
>
> Feel free to cite the law or regulation that makes it illegal to enlist
> over 100% in a unit.
And who defines the capacity of a unit?


Michael
From: Liberal Hypocrite Detector on
Michael Ejercito <mejercit(a)hotmail.com> wrote in news:c5c6f202-d1d8-4274-
a834-e8114b0d650a(a)p22g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

> On Jul 20, 4:24�am, Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:09:19 -0500, Liberal Hypocrite Detector
>>
>>
>>
>> <grey_ghost471-newsgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >news:6s6946dv0hdovta6h17fsvppqbddlfdp07(a)4ax.com:
>>
>> >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:14:12 -0500, Liberal Hypocrite Detector
>> >><grey_ghost471-newsgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>Only if avoidance means joining the Texas Air National guard,
learning
> to
>> >>>fly a Mach plus interceptor and then standing alerts.
>>
>> >> No. Only if it means getting in a unit that was already at 100%
>> >> capacity...which was ILLEGAL. And getting into a unit that flew jets
>> >> that were no longer used in Viet Nam SO HE COULDN'T GO. He claimed he
>> >> wanted to..then why join a unit that can't be deployed?
>>
>> >Um, no.
>>
>> >http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0185.shtml
>> >George W. Bush's military service began in 1968 when he enlisted in the
>> >Texas Air National Guard after graduating with a bachelor's degree in
>> >history from Yale University. The aircraft he was ultimately trained to
> fly
>> >was the F-102 Delta Dagger, popularly known as "the Deuce." The F-102
ma
> y
>> >have been old but was far from useless, and it continued to serve in
lar
> ge
>> >numbers with both Air Force and Air National Guard units well into the
>> >1970s. Furthermore, the F-102 was deployed to Vietnam throughout most
of
>> >the conflict, and the aircraft proved its value early by deterring
North
>> >Vietnamese pilots from crossing the border to attack the South. Perhaps
>> >more importantly, the F-102 and its Air National Guard pilots performed
> a
>> >vital role in defending the continental United States from nuclear
attac
> k.
>>
>> >http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-102a-ops.htm
>> >Four F-102s were sent from Clark AB, P. I., to South Vietnam in March
19
> 62,
>> >after radars had detected low flying, unidentified aircraft along the
>> >Cambodian border. This started a series of rotations every 6 weeks by
Na
> vy �
>> >EA-1F all weather fighters and USAF F-102s to Tan Son Nhut. The
rotation
>> >ended in May 1963 due to base overcrowding. Nonetheless, from the
summer
> of
>> >1963 to mid 1964, Thirteenth Air Force conducted no-notice deployments
o
> f
>> >F-102s to South Vietnam and brief training flights to Tan Son Nhut and
D
> a
>> >Nang. The small number of aircraft �committed to SEA air defense befor
> e
>> >1965 tripled by the end of 1966. At that time 12 F-102s stood alert in
>> >South Vietnam (6 at Bien Hoa and 6 at Da Nang) and another 10 in
Thailan
> d
>> >(6 at Udorn and 4 at Don Muang). Little change occurred in 1967 and
1968
> ,
>> >the Air Force keeping a minimum of 14 F-102s on 5 minute alert with the
>> >remainder of the force on 1 hour call. F-102 operations �in SEA ended
> in
>> >December 1969 (The last F-102 squadron at Clark was inactivated.
However
> , a
>> >few F-102s remained at the Royal Thai Air Base of Don Muang until the
>> >summer of 1970.) with a remarkable safety record. In almost 10 years of
>> >flying air defense and a few combat air patrols for SAC B-52s, just 15
F
> -
>> >102s were lost.
>>
>> His unit was at 100% when he was allowed to join. That's been
>> documented repeatedly.
> Documented repeatedly by WHOM?

By Lookout.

>
>>
>> There were NO NEW F-102 units be sent to Viet Nam WHEN HE JOINED.
>> Therefore HE COULD NOT GO and his daddy knew that. The only one flying
>> them were AD Air Force.
>>
> And there was some sort of guarantee that it would not change in
> the future?

Of course, lookout say's so. Of course he snipped the 2 refernces I posted
that suggest otherwise, Ya think maybe he's lieing or just batshit crazy?

>
>
> Michael
>





--
I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with
this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and
say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any
administration.

Hillary Rodham Clinton
From: Lookout on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:47:01 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
<mejercit(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Jul 20, 4:24�am, Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:09:19 -0500, Liberal Hypocrite Detector
>>
>>
>>
>> <grey_ghost471-newsgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >news:6s6946dv0hdovta6h17fsvppqbddlfdp07(a)4ax.com:
>>
>> >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:14:12 -0500, Liberal Hypocrite Detector
>> >><grey_ghost471-newsgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>Only if avoidance means joining the Texas Air National guard, learning to
>> >>>fly a Mach plus interceptor and then standing alerts.
>>
>> >> No. Only if it means getting in a unit that was already at 100%
>> >> capacity...which was ILLEGAL. And getting into a unit that flew jets
>> >> that were no longer used in Viet Nam SO HE COULDN'T GO. He claimed he
>> >> wanted to..then why join a unit that can't be deployed?
>>
>> >Um, no.
>>
>> >http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0185.shtml
>> >George W. Bush's military service began in 1968 when he enlisted in the
>> >Texas Air National Guard after graduating with a bachelor's degree in
>> >history from Yale University. The aircraft he was ultimately trained to fly
>> >was the F-102 Delta Dagger, popularly known as "the Deuce." The F-102 may
>> >have been old but was far from useless, and it continued to serve in large
>> >numbers with both Air Force and Air National Guard units well into the
>> >1970s. Furthermore, the F-102 was deployed to Vietnam throughout most of
>> >the conflict, and the aircraft proved its value early by deterring North
>> >Vietnamese pilots from crossing the border to attack the South. Perhaps
>> >more importantly, the F-102 and its Air National Guard pilots performed a
>> >vital role in defending the continental United States from nuclear attack.
>>
>> >http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-102a-ops.htm
>> >Four F-102s were sent from Clark AB, P. I., to South Vietnam in March 1962,
>> >after radars had detected low flying, unidentified aircraft along the
>> >Cambodian border. This started a series of rotations every 6 weeks by Navy �
>> >EA-1F all weather fighters and USAF F-102s to Tan Son Nhut. The rotation
>> >ended in May 1963 due to base overcrowding. Nonetheless, from the summer of
>> >1963 to mid 1964, Thirteenth Air Force conducted no-notice deployments of
>> >F-102s to South Vietnam and brief training flights to Tan Son Nhut and Da
>> >Nang. The small number of aircraft �committed to SEA air defense before
>> >1965 tripled by the end of 1966. At that time 12 F-102s stood alert in
>> >South Vietnam (6 at Bien Hoa and 6 at Da Nang) and another 10 in Thailand
>> >(6 at Udorn and 4 at Don Muang). Little change occurred in 1967 and 1968,
>> >the Air Force keeping a minimum of 14 F-102s on 5 minute alert with the
>> >remainder of the force on 1 hour call. F-102 operations �in SEA ended in
>> >December 1969 (The last F-102 squadron at Clark was inactivated. However, a
>> >few F-102s remained at the Royal Thai Air Base of Don Muang until the
>> >summer of 1970.) with a remarkable safety record. In almost 10 years of
>> >flying air defense and a few combat air patrols for SAC B-52s, just 15 F-
>> >102s were lost.
>>
>> His unit was at 100% when he was allowed to join. That's been
>> documented repeatedly.
> Documented repeatedly by WHOM?

During the election.
>
>>
>> There were NO NEW F-102 units be sent to Viet Nam WHEN HE JOINED.
>> Therefore HE COULD NOT GO and his daddy knew that. The only one flying
>> them were AD Air Force.
>>
> And there was some sort of guarantee that it would not change in
>the future?

Yes. It was OBSOLETE for combat in View Nam.
>
>
> Michael
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