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From: Tegger on 5 Feb 2010 21:11 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:hkias1$jf4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > > "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message > news:Xns9D16BE8561674tegger(a)208.90.168.18... >> >> Deaths due to stuck accelerators: 1 (maybe) >> > > This one is not accurate. It absolutely is 100% accurate. > In San Diego, a stuck pedal took four lives, Not true. The NHTSA said so, too. > the driver, his wife, their daughter, and the wife's brother. But, > taking this correction into account, the percentage is still very low. You're referring to the cop. The NHTSA determined that the problem in that incident had to do with Lexus-branded floor mats that were wrong for the car and were improperly secured, causing them to bunch up and trap the gas pedal. The pedal itself was found to be without flaw. <http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2010/02/03/terence-corcoran-the-war-on-toyota.aspx> See about 1/3 of the way down for an excerpt from the official NHTSA report. -- Tegger
From: Tegger on 5 Feb 2010 21:19 "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in news:4b6cb997$0$22815$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net: > Really? The media is reporting 19 deaths thus far, in the US alone I don't normally call for this sort of thing, but: Gimme a cite, "Mike". I see five deaths. Four of them in the SD cop's loaner where the gas pedal was trapped by improper floor mats. The pedal itself was found by NHTSA investigators to be just fine. And, you Pennsylvania hillbilly, you STILL have refused (three times so far) to answer my question about the 28% of SUA incidents involving Fords. You're as bad as the environuts for avoiding difficult questions. -- Tegger
From: Jeff Strickland on 6 Feb 2010 12:47 "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message news:SIudnayZ1-nATPHWnZ2dnUVZ_gBi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > In article <4b6cb9e5$0$9300$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: > >> It was a Lexus, in California, according to new reports > > Then it wasn't a Toyota. > > I know, but Chevy is GM. So Chevy has a recall and it's GM or is it the > other way around. > GM would recall a Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Cadillac, etc. Toyota would recall a Lexus. The crash in San Diego (El Cajon or Santee, really) was a Lexus, which is a Toyota. They blamed the floor mats, but I respectfully disagree. A cop should not be stymied by a floor mat. As a matter of fact, I'm serious concerned that the cop was stymied at all, but that just speaks to the serious nature of the problem.
From: Tegger on 6 Feb 2010 13:48 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:hkk9vn$utl$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > > "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message > news:SIudnayZ1-nATPHWnZ2dnUVZ_gBi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> In article <4b6cb9e5$0$9300$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, >> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >> >>> It was a Lexus, in California, according to new reports >> >> Then it wasn't a Toyota. >> >> I know, but Chevy is GM. So Chevy has a recall and it's GM or is it >> the other way around. >> > > GM would recall a Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Cadillac, etc. Toyota would > recall a Lexus. > > The crash in San Diego (El Cajon or Santee, really) was a Lexus, which > is a Toyota. They blamed the floor mats, but I respectfully disagree. > A cop should not be stymied by a floor mat. As a matter of fact, I'm > serious concerned that the cop was stymied at all, but that just > speaks to the serious nature of the problem. > You should read the NHTSA's own investigation report. An excerpt is here, about a third of the way down: <http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2010/02/03/terence-corcoran-the-war-on-toyota.aspx> -- Tegger
From: Jeff Strickland on 6 Feb 2010 13:56
"Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message news:Xns9D178C71DDB64tegger(a)208.90.168.18... > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in > news:hkk9vn$utl$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > >> >> "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message >> news:SIudnayZ1-nATPHWnZ2dnUVZ_gBi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >>> In article <4b6cb9e5$0$9300$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, >>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >>> >>>> It was a Lexus, in California, according to new reports >>> >>> Then it wasn't a Toyota. >>> >>> I know, but Chevy is GM. So Chevy has a recall and it's GM or is it >>> the other way around. >>> >> >> GM would recall a Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Cadillac, etc. Toyota would >> recall a Lexus. >> >> The crash in San Diego (El Cajon or Santee, really) was a Lexus, which >> is a Toyota. They blamed the floor mats, but I respectfully disagree. >> A cop should not be stymied by a floor mat. As a matter of fact, I'm >> serious concerned that the cop was stymied at all, but that just >> speaks to the serious nature of the problem. >> > > > > You should read the NHTSA's own investigation report. > I have. I also have a healthy disrespect for government reporting. To be fair, I have a selective disrespect of government reporting too. |