From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:38:47 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:Q_yRn.30820$yx.25938(a)newsfe13.iad...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:25:34 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:55:48 -0600, ���hw?�f wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ah wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/13/2010 10:51 AM, ���hw?�f wrote:
>>>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:7eVQn.76345$HG1.11538(a)newsfe21.iad...
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:10:25 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:zvTQn.57409$h57.40776(a)newsfe22.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:44:54 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:08:24 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is so nice when the facts are ALWAYS on my side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can save 8 billion a year just by reducing and closing
>>>>>>>> foreign
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bases
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A sizeable chunk of change to be sure!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We're talking a President who wastes $80B a year. Big deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/1006SDTFreport.pdf Reduce
>>>>>>>> troops in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Europe and Asia, cut end strength by 50,000 $80 b.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting reading.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Who is the last president you thought was terrific?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have to ask?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. Who is the last president you thought was terrific? Type the
>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James Earl Carter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Word.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heathen! Apostate!
>>>>>
>>>>> He told the people what they *needed* to hear, not what they wanted
>>>>> to hear. People will do any number of things to delude themselves and
>>>>> Reagan offered up a nostalgic veiw of a once prosperous Uhmurikuh and
>>>>> the sheeple went for it. The fact that he couldnt deliver on it was
>>>>> less important than his ability to play to their beliefs.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed you are correct, sir. The reality of the times was far
>>>> different than what Reagan tried to convince us it was. I always
>>>> thought of him as the wizard in Oz, all smoke and mirrors.
>>>>
>>>>> Word.
>>>
>>>
>>> See answer above.
>>
>>
>> Reagan was your favorite president, even though he fed you (and the
>> country) bland cream of wheat diluted with way too much water.
>
> Well, in truth, Nancy was our president then.


Reagan's ghost still gives pleasure to people who think American was like
this before some vague point in history:

http://www.best-norman-rockwell-art.com/images/1919-02-22-Saturday-Evening-Post-Norman-Rockwell-cover-World-War-I-Soldier-Marching-with-Children-no-logo-400-Digimar.jpg

In reality, no such world ever existed.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:24:33 -0500, pandora wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:40:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:2VzRn.14001$3y2.8187(a)newsfe11.iad...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:38:47 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:Q_yRn.30820$yx.25938(a)newsfe13.iad...
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:25:34 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:55:48 -0600, §ñühw€£f wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ah wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/13/2010 10:51 AM, §ñühw€£f wrote:
>>>>>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:7eVQn.76345$HG1.11538(a)newsfe21.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:10:25 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:zvTQn.57409$h57.40776(a)newsfe22.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:44:54 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:08:24 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is so nice when the facts are ALWAYS on my side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can save 8 billion a year just by reducing and closing
>>>>>>>>>> foreign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A sizeable chunk of change to be sure!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're talking a President who wastes $80B a year. Big deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/1006SDTFreport.pdf Reduce
>>>>>>>>>> troops in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Europe and Asia, cut end strength by 50,000 $80 b.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting reading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Who is the last president you thought was terrific?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You have to ask?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Who is the last president you thought was terrific? Type
>>>>>>>>>> the name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James Earl Carter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Word.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heathen! Apostate!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He told the people what they *needed* to hear, not what they wanted
>>>>>>> to hear. People will do any number of things to delude themselves
>>>>>>> and Reagan offered up a nostalgic veiw of a once prosperous
>>>>>>> Uhmurikuh and the sheeple went for it. The fact that he couldnt
>>>>>>> deliver on it was less important than his ability to play to their
>>>>>>> beliefs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed you are correct, sir. The reality of the times was far
>>>>>> different than what Reagan tried to convince us it was. I always
>>>>>> thought of him as the wizard in Oz, all smoke and mirrors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Word.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> See answer above.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reagan was your favorite president, even though he fed you (and the
>>>> country) bland cream of wheat diluted with way too much water.
>>>
>>>
>>> I did quite well during the 80's. A lot of factors, but Reagan freeing
>>> up business to do business had a lot to do with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> How do YOU think he "freed up business to do business"? You said it, so
>> you should be able to support the comment with a one or two sentence
>> explanation.
>
> Good luck with that!


Really. I don't supply idiots with answers.

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:26:07 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
> news:UMmdnQtYrarMS4vRnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com...
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:40:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:2VzRn.14001$3y2.8187(a)newsfe11.iad...
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:38:47 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q_yRn.30820$yx.25938(a)newsfe13.iad...
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:25:34 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:55:48 -0600, §ñühw?£f wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/13/2010 10:51 AM, §ñühw?£f wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:7eVQn.76345$HG1.11538(a)newsfe21.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:10:25 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:zvTQn.57409$h57.40776(a)newsfe22.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:44:54 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:08:24 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is so nice when the facts are ALWAYS on my side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can save 8 billion a year just by reducing and closing
>>>>>>>>>>> foreign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A sizeable chunk of change to be sure!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're talking a President who wastes $80B a year. Big deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/1006SDTFreport.pdf Reduce
>>>>>>>>>>> troops in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Europe and Asia, cut end strength by 50,000 $80 b.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting reading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who is the last president you thought was terrific?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to ask?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Who is the last president you thought was terrific? Type
>>>>>>>>>>> the name.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> James Earl Carter.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Word.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Heathen! Apostate!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He told the people what they *needed* to hear, not what they
>>>>>>>> wanted to hear. People will do any number of things to delude
>>>>>>>> themselves and Reagan offered up a nostalgic veiw of a once
>>>>>>>> prosperous Uhmurikuh and the sheeple went for it. The fact that he
>>>>>>>> couldnt deliver on it was less important than his ability to play
>>>>>>>> to their beliefs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed you are correct, sir. The reality of the times was far
>>>>>>> different than what Reagan tried to convince us it was. I always
>>>>>>> thought of him as the wizard in Oz, all smoke and mirrors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See answer above.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Reagan was your favorite president, even though he fed you (and the
>>>>> country) bland cream of wheat diluted with way too much water.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did quite well during the 80's. A lot of factors, but Reagan freeing
>>>> up business to do business had a lot to do with it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> How do YOU think he "freed up business to do business"? You said it,
>>> so you should be able to support the comment with a one or two sentence
>>> explanation.
>>
>> Good luck with that!
>
>
> I know. It's sort of minor hobby, trying to get him to put things in his
> own words. I already know his response. "If you don't know, why should I
> explain it to you?" Translated, that means "I heard someone else say
> Reagan freed up business, but I have no clue what they meant."

If you could think your way out of a wet sock, it's be different.

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:27:44 -0500, pandora wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:26:07 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "pandora" <pandora(a)peak.org> wrote in message
>> news:UMmdnQtYrarMS4vRnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d(a)scnresearch.com...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:40:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:2VzRn.14001$3y2.8187(a)newsfe11.iad...
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:38:47 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Q_yRn.30820$yx.25938(a)newsfe13.iad...
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:25:34 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:55:48 -0600, §ñühw?£f wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/13/2010 10:51 AM, §ñühw?£f wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:7eVQn.76345$HG1.11538(a)newsfe21.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:10:25 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:zvTQn.57409$h57.40776(a)newsfe22.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:44:54 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:08:24 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is so nice when the facts are ALWAYS on my side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can save 8 billion a year just by reducing and closing
>>>>>>>>>>>> foreign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A sizeable chunk of change to be sure!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're talking a President who wastes $80B a year. Big deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/1006SDTFreport.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reduce
>>>>>>>>>>>> troops in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Europe and Asia, cut end strength by 50,000 $80 b.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting reading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who is the last president you thought was terrific?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to ask?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Who is the last president you thought was terrific? Type
>>>>>>>>>>>> the name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> James Earl Carter.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Word.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heathen! Apostate!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He told the people what they *needed* to hear, not what they
>>>>>>>>> wanted to hear. People will do any number of things to delude
>>>>>>>>> themselves and Reagan offered up a nostalgic veiw of a once
>>>>>>>>> prosperous Uhmurikuh and the sheeple went for it. The fact that
>>>>>>>>> he couldnt deliver on it was less important than his ability to
>>>>>>>>> play to their beliefs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Indeed you are correct, sir. The reality of the times was far
>>>>>>>> different than what Reagan tried to convince us it was. I always
>>>>>>>> thought of him as the wizard in Oz, all smoke and mirrors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Word.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See answer above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reagan was your favorite president, even though he fed you (and the
>>>>>> country) bland cream of wheat diluted with way too much water.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did quite well during the 80's. A lot of factors, but Reagan
>>>>> freeing up business to do business had a lot to do with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> How do YOU think he "freed up business to do business"? You said it,
>>>> so you should be able to support the comment with a one or two
>>>> sentence explanation.
>>>
>>> Good luck with that!
>>
>>
>> I know. It's sort of minor hobby, trying to get him to put things in his
>> own words. I already know his response. "If you don't know, why should I
>> explain it to you?" Translated, that means "I heard someone else say
>> Reagan freed up business, but I have no clue what they meant."
>
> Indeed. I wonder if he *ever* gives a rational response to his stated
> opinions.


Not to idiots.

Ratzoo and JSB are cut from the same cloth. One small difference. Ratzoo
actually supports what he says. JSB throws out ideas and then when you try
to get him to make a stand his standard reply is "I didn't say that."

That's pretty =much all he has ever really said.

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:04:36 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:21:33 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio, Hachiroku
> ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:31:11 -0400, ah wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/12/2010 3:18 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:08:24 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It is so nice when the facts are ALWAYS on my side.
>>>>
>>>> They're the wrong facts, but I suppose you need anything to make you
>>>> feel justified.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We can save 8 billion a year just by reducing and closing foreign
>>>>> bases
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/1006SDTFreport.pdf Reduce troops in
>>>>> Europe and Asia, cut end strength by 50,000 $80 b.
>>>>
>>>> Who said it was about saving money, dipshit? I never mentioned
>>>> *anything* about money. And with the current President, what does
>>>> saving money have to do with anything?
>>>>
>>>> God, any discussion with you where you actually have to *think* is
>>>> totally useless, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> Now, go back to the original thread, put the crack pipe down, and try
>>>> to actually think about *why* I said closing the bases was a bad idea.
>>>
>>> I don't know where you live, but how kindly would you be to having
>>> Chinese military bases in, say, Rhode Island?
>>>
>>> Why /is/ the closure of exo-America bases a bad idea?
>>
>>
>>I'd tell you, but I like watching Ratzoo chase his tail...
>
> Stupid is your life.

Arf arf. Sit up and beg.