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From: Clive on 11 Feb 2010 13:18 In message <hkvukm$5mt$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> writes >Ford even got away with issuing dashboard stickers for >transmissions that could slip from Park to Reverse. I suspect that this incident is what caused both the US and UK governments to pass a law laying out automatic controls as P-R-N-D-L. I remember our government passing it after a series of AT cars went backward instead of forward, I remember one horrific incident where an old lady in an AT car was on a Ferry on the Tamar, but instead of going forward her car lurched back off of the ferry into 30feet of water, her body was recovered the next day. -- Clive
From: Mike Hunter on 11 Feb 2010 13:35 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) "Tom W. Butts" <corn(a)cob.com> wrote in message news:4b734861.3680734(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:18:50 -0800 (PST), Mudflap > <hall.richard.j(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > BTW, I heard on the news that Kelly Bluebook has revised many Toyota > prices downward as demand plummets.
From: Mike Hunter on 11 Feb 2010 13:36 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) "Clive" <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:$ll0e7IYN1cLFwC8(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <4b72d99c$0$18644$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, Mike Hunter > <Mikehunt2(a)lycos.?.invalid> writes >>I guess the Toyota loyalist are worried they may get injured or killed at >>worst and the retail value of their cars will plummet at best. > Or perhaps it's just that they're global with a car that passes the > criteria of all governments whereas for instance the EU is very strict on > what cars can be sold in it's area, which is why firms like Ford and GM > have to make a totally different product for the EU. > -- > Clive >
From: Mike Hunter on 11 Feb 2010 13:36 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:hkvnd1$b58$4(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:46:16 +0000, Clive wrote: > >> In message <4b72d99c$0$18644$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, Mike Hunter >> <Mikehunt2(a)lycos.?.invalid> writes >>>I guess the Toyota loyalist are worried they may get injured or killed at >>>worst and the retail value of their cars will plummet at best. >> Or perhaps it's just that they're global with a car that passes the >> criteria of all governments whereas for instance the EU is very strict on >> what cars can be sold in it's area, which is why firms like Ford and GM >> have to make a totally different product for the EU. > > That why they don't sell US designed cars there? > > The UK version of the Escort was pretty close to the US version. > OTOH, GM had to buy Vauxhaul to get an 'in' in European markets. > > I've heard they're junk, too... > > >
From: Mike Hunter on 11 Feb 2010 13:36
(Cross posting deleted, automatically) "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:h6qdnRs_QPXx9e7WnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > Hachiroku ???? wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:46:16 +0000, Clive wrote: drive had > four-wheel indpendent suspension 13 years earlier. > > And the emissions and safety requirements are different, too. > > Jeff |