From: Mike Hunter on
That easy, Toyota loyalist are going into other brand NGs and bringing up
their old recalls in an futile effort to divert attention from the fact that
Toyota CURRENTLY is in the midst of the widest ranging world wide recall,
ever since the various governments around the world enacted legislation to
REQUIRE auto manufactures recall their dangerous vehicles.

The Tribune Newspapers reported TODAY that Toyota CURRENTLY has over
9,000,000 various and different types of vehicles, all around the world,
that are CURRENTLY subject to safety recalls.

Customer complaints to the various governments have include, but apparently
are not limited to, unintended acceleration, steering and brake problems and
fires. Toyota problems range from the smallest of their vehicles all the
way up to their luxury vehicles, hybrids and trucks

That is largest number of different types of vehicles, as well as the
highest total number, ever recalled by ANY other vehicle manufacturer in
history according the AP story.

I guess the Toyota loyalist are worried they may get injured or killed at
worst and the retail value of their cars will plummet at best.


"JimG" <newsgroups(a)abetterplacetobe.com> wrote in message
news:hktn7c$ags$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Why is Toyota the subject of many recent post on a GM newsgroup?
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Back in the day when NGs first started is was a forum for engineers and tech
to exchange information. Those of us in engineering got to see what was
happening in the field and the techs leaned what was behind the engineering.
We learned from each other.

Eventually those looking for information on their own vehicle joined us.
However most of the engineers and techs started to leave and go to our
satellite systems for the information we had been exchanging, when the brand
disparagers looking for a free of cheap fix for their worn-out vehicles,
came along

Now the kooks have taken over. For example look in the cross posted Toyota
NGs, it is filled with a bunch of political kooks who can not get anyone in
real life to listen their nonsense

If you want to reply to the kooks, do what I do, delete your brands NG name
from all of the cross postings, WBMA


"JimG" <newsgroups(a)abetterplacetobe.com> wrote in message
news:hkum06$q47$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> And this explains why Toyota has become the main topic on a GM newsgroup?
>
> Most other auto newsgroups discuss topics like: how to fix things, where
> to find parts, what new models will be like or, past owner experiences.
> There are some threads like these discussed on this GM newsgroup but they
> have become the minority.
>
> "Bill" <billnomailnospamx(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7tfnbrFeolU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> >
>>> Why is Toyota the subject of many recent post on a GM newsgroup?
>>
>> Because Obama is paying attention to these problems which Bush tried to
>> bury...
>>
>> From following link:
>> "Six times since 2003 in fact, the safety agency opened inquiries into
>> possible Toyota safety problems, and six times it closed them without any
>> significant action.
>> In 2008, for instance, the agency examined a request from the owner of a
>> Toyota Tacoma pickup to investigate "sudden and uncontrolled
>> acceleration." After a preliminary review, the safety agency concluded in
>> a memorandum given to House investigators that: "In view of the need to
>> allocate and prioritize N.H.T.S.A.'s limited resources to best accomplish
>> the agency's safety mission, the petition is denied.""
>>
>> Full story...
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/business/10safety.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


From: Mudflap on
The worst part is I haven't seen the price of toyotas plummet yet.

As soon as the tacomas are worth the same as rangers and canyons, i'm
buying a used one. unless the new values plummet too!
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:13:48 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:

>
> That is largest number of different types of vehicles, as well as the
> highest total number, ever recalled by ANY other vehicle manufacturer in
> history according the AP story.


Bullshit. Ford had a recall of 12M vehicles for exploding cruise controls.


From: Mike Hunter on
(Cross postings deleted Automatically)

Apparently the AP has a different take than what you believe ;)



"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2010.02.10.21.03.55.765014(a)e86.GTS...
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:13:48 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:
>
>>
>> The Tribune Newspapers reported TODAY that Toyota CURRENTLY has over
>> 9,000,000 various and different types of vehicles, all around the world,
>> that are CURRENTLY subject to safety recalls.
>>
>> Customer complaints to the various governments have include, but
>> apparently are not limited to, unintended acceleration, steering and
>> brake problems and fires. Toyota problems range from the smallest of
>> their vehicles all the way up to their luxury vehicles, hybrids and
>> trucks
>>
>> That is largest number of different types of vehicles, as well as the
>> highest total number, ever recalled by ANY other vehicle manufacturer in
>> history according the AP story.

> Bullshit. Ford had a recall of 12M vehicles for exploding cruise controls.
>
>