From: trainfan1 on
Jeff wrote:

>
> "trainfan1" <lmsearing(a)usdatanet.net> wrote in message
> news:WJ6dnfbKPtcX92bYnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d(a)usadatanet.net...
>
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yet, all the first digits of each vehicle type (car, truck, SUV,
>>> truck - chasis only, etc.) seems to be set for each make? I mean, I
>>> haven't seen any Fords that begin 5F* or 4F*, they all begin 1F*.
>>
>>
>> Not all.
>>
>> 3FTHF36G7VMA62345
>> 2FMDA5247YBA81967
>> 2FAFP74W24X155966
>> 3fahp31391r201444
>> 3FAHP08136R231288
>> 2fthf36g1tca41550
>> 3FAHP39593R168048
>> 2FAFP71W73X105325
>>
>> & Some 1Z's:
>>
>> 1ZVHT80NX65154048
>> 1ZVHT89S675315120
>> 1ZVHT82H275257800
>> 1ZVHT82HX75293606
>> 1ZVFT80N855186518
>> 1ZVFT82H265253445
>> 1ZVFT80NX65107092
>>
>> I couldn't find any w/ 5F or 4F.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> Those that begin with 2 or 3 were built in Canada or Mexico.
>
> I am not sure what the ones that begin with 1ZT are.

You are more than welcome to google them, you know.

Rob
From: Mike Hunter on
I know! I can't prove it, I didn't bookmark the URL, Search the FMC site,
WBMA ;)


mike




"Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "trainfan1" <lmsearing(a)usdatanet.net> wrote in message
> news:WJ6dnfbKPtcX92bYnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d(a)usadatanet.net...
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yet, all the first digits of each vehicle type (car, truck, SUV, truck -
>>> chasis only, etc.) seems to be set for each make? I mean, I haven't seen
>>> any Fords that begin 5F* or 4F*, they all begin 1F*.
>>
>> Not all.
>>
>> 3FTHF36G7VMA62345
>> 2FMDA5247YBA81967
>> 2FAFP74W24X155966
>> 3fahp31391r201444
>> 3FAHP08136R231288
>> 2fthf36g1tca41550
>> 3FAHP39593R168048
>> 2FAFP71W73X105325
>>
>> & Some 1Z's:
>>
>> 1ZVHT80NX65154048
>> 1ZVHT89S675315120
>> 1ZVHT82H275257800
>> 1ZVHT82HX75293606
>> 1ZVFT80N855186518
>> 1ZVFT82H265253445
>> 1ZVFT80NX65107092
>>
>> I couldn't find any w/ 5F or 4F.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Those that begin with 2 or 3 were built in Canada or Mexico.
>
> I am not sure what the ones that begin with 1ZT are.


From: Mike Hunter on
No for me. I use a laptop, via satellite to reach a server that is connect
to the PTD.net ISP, that provides my connection to the NGs. My history,
cookies etc are deleted automatically, when sign off. Emails sent to my
mailbox on that server are automaticly deleted after 24 hours.

mike


"Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:W6WdnYLmBcO-r2HYnZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d(a)ptd.net...
>> You are free to believe whatever you chose but why did you not answer the
>> question asked instead of asking one? I have told you were to look
>> numerous times. You may bookmark ever site you visit. I do not
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>
> It should be in your history. Both Firefox and Internet Explorer have keep
> a history of all the sites you have visited.

> Jeff


From: C. E. White on

"Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:9KWKh.7536$e47.7033(a)trnddc05...
>
> "trainfan1" <lmsearing(a)usdatanet.net> wrote in message
> news:WJ6dnfbKPtcX92bYnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d(a)usadatanet.net...
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yet, all the first digits of each vehicle type (car, truck, SUV, truck -
>>> chasis only, etc.) seems to be set for each make? I mean, I haven't seen
>>> any Fords that begin 5F* or 4F*, they all begin 1F*.
>>
>> Not all.
>>
>> 3FTHF36G7VMA62345
>> 2FMDA5247YBA81967
>> 2FAFP74W24X155966
>> 3fahp31391r201444
>> 3FAHP08136R231288
>> 2fthf36g1tca41550
>> 3FAHP39593R168048
>> 2FAFP71W73X105325
>>
>> & Some 1Z's:
>>
>> 1ZVHT80NX65154048
>> 1ZVHT89S675315120
>> 1ZVHT82H275257800
>> 1ZVHT82HX75293606
>> 1ZVFT80N855186518
>> 1ZVFT82H265253445
>> 1ZVFT80NX65107092
>>
>> I couldn't find any w/ 5F or 4F.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Those that begin with 2 or 3 were built in Canada or Mexico.
>
> I am not sure what the ones that begin with 1ZT are.

There are no 1ZTs in the list. The 1ZVs are all Mustangs built at the Flat
Rock Assembly Plant jointly owned by Ford and Mazda ( 1ZV = Automotive
Alliance International (USA) Ford Passenger Car)

Here is a list of all the 2007 Ford WMI from
https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenance/vin_tools/default.asp :

VIN Code Vehicle Manufacturer Make Type
1F6 Detroit Chassis LLC, USA Ford Basic (Stripped) Chassis
1FA Ford Motor Company, USA Ford Passenger Car
1FB Ford Motor Company, USA Ford Bus
1FC Ford Motor Company, USA Ford Basic (Stripped) Chassis
1FD Ford Motor Company, USA Ford Incomplete Vehicle
1FM Ford Motor Company, USA Ford MPV*
1FT Ford Motor Company, USA Ford Truck (Completed Vehicle)
1L1 Ford Motor Company, USA Lincoln Incomplete Vehicle - Limousine
1LJ Ford Motor Company, USA Lincoln Incomplete Vehicle (Hearse)
1LN Ford Motor Company, USA Lincoln Passenger Car
1ME Ford Motor Company, USA Mercury Passenger Car
1MH Ford Motor Company, USA Mercury Incomplete Vehicle
1ZV Automotive Alliance International (USA) Ford Passenger Car
2FA Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. Ford Passenger Car
2FD Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. Ford Incomplete Vehicle
2FM Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. Ford MPV
2FT Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. Ford Truck (Completed Vehicle)
2LM Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. Lincoln MPV
2ME Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. Mercury Passenger Car
2MH Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. Mercury Incomplete Vehicle
2MR Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd. Mercury MPV
3FA Ford Motor Company Mexico Ford Passenger Car
3FD Ford Motor Company Mexico Ford Incomplete Vehicle
3FT Ford Motor Company Mexico Ford Truck (Completed Vehicle)
3FN Blue Diamond Trucks S. De R. L. De C. V. Ford Truck (Completed Vehicle)
3FR Blue Diamond Trucks S. De R. L. De C. V. Ford Incomplete Vehicle
3LN Ford Motor Company, Mexico Lincoln Passenger Car
3ME Ford Motor Company, Mexico Mercury Passenger Car
4F2 Ford Motor Company, USA Mazda MPV
4F4 Ford Motor Company, USA Mazda Truck (Completed Vehicle)
4M2 Ford Motor Company, USA Mercury MPV
5L1 Ford Motor Company, USA Lincoln MPV - Limousine
5LM Ford Motor Company, USA Lincoln MPV
5LT Ford Motor Company, USA Lincoln Truck (Completed Vehicle)

Ed


From: C. E. White on

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>I know! I can't prove it, I didn't bookmark the URL, Search the FMC site,
>WBMA ;)
>
>
> mike

Well now we are getting somewhere. you don't actually have any proof. You
just think there is some proof. You think you remember seeing some proof,
but you can't find it, so you are hoping someone can find it for you.

Give up Mike. There is no relationship between the WMI and domestic content.
Nobody is going to find proof that doesn't exist.

Here is more for you to think about.

To be considered a domestic vehicle, the vehicle must have 75% domestic
content. According to the domestic content label, the average Mustang only
contains 70% domestic content, but it is assembled in the USA and gets a "1"
as the first digit of the VIN. Likewise, the average 2008 Ford Escape only
includes 65% domestic content, yet is still gets a "1" as the first digit of
the VIN. How do you explain these vehicles that don't seem to fit into your
pet theory that the VIN indicates domestic content?

Ed