From: Sharx35 on

"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
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> Here's an example of a Democrat who does encourage wind power:
>
> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a3IssawSnqcQ&refer=home>

Lots of wind and hot air in DEMONrat districts.

From: edspyhill01 on
On Dec 13, 4:03 pm, "Sharx35" <shar...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "dr_jeff" <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:H4-dnZtQ8bdN0rjWnZ2dnUVZ_rxi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
>
> > Here's an example of a Democrat who does encourage wind power:
>
> > <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a3IssawSnqcQ&refe...>
>
> Lots of wind and hot air in DEMONrat districts.

We just need to put solar panels on every roof that can support them,
install reversible electric meters and see what happens. I know
Germany is doing this. Let's take some military-industrial complex
money and redirect it to this project.
From: dr_jeff on
edspyhill01 wrote:
> On Dec 13, 4:03 pm, "Sharx35" <shar...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "dr_jeff" <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
>>
>> news:H4-dnZtQ8bdN0rjWnZ2dnUVZ_rxi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
>>
>>> Here's an example of a Democrat who does encourage wind power:
>>> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a3IssawSnqcQ&refe...>
>> Lots of wind and hot air in DEMONrat districts.
>
> We just need to put solar panels on every roof that can support them,
> install reversible electric meters and see what happens. I know
> Germany is doing this. Let's take some military-industrial complex
> money and redirect it to this project.

We need to do a lot more than that. We need to improve efficiency of our
appliances, vehicles and homes. TVs waste a lot of energy when they are
*off* (i.e., on the off position, but still plugged in). Ditto for
computer and other devices. In NYC, buildings are responsible for 80% of
the greenhouse gas emissions. We can get lots of savings by improving
insulation, heating, cooling and lighting.

Jeff

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:32:45 -0500, dr_jeff wrote:

> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:41:35 -0800, Jeff wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2:59 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>> THis can be applied to Global Warming, or any other myth the Liberals
>>>> are trying to perpetuate, such as damage from Wind Power, etc:
>>>>
>>>> "The Day The Earth Stood Still": Klaatu takes the boy to see the
>>>> spaceship, and a roving TV reporter with a cameraman comes up to him
>>>> and asks him what he thinks.
>>>>
>>>> Klaatu responds:
>>>>
>>>> "I am fearful when I see people substituting fear for reason."
>>>>
>>>> That's the truth.
>>>
>>> Just what myths are Democrats spreading about wind power?
>>
>> THey don't want it.
>
> They say that they don't want it? Why don't want it? Evidence please.

The local k00ks have stopped to wind projects already, and a guy with a
ski area had to seek 'community approval' before he could put one up to
power his ski area. Even then, locals were called in and asked where they
would like it.

Most didn't like it at all, but cooler (and smarter) heads prevailed. He
almost got it up in time for ski season. They now have to work on it in
the snow. If it hadn't had so many delays by people who didn't want it
(it's not even on their property) it would have been finished in October.

>
>>> And what about
>>> the stuff that Bush Whitehouse had on its website about How Global
>>> Warming is a problem? McCain also understands the truth that global
>>> warming is a problem.
>>
>> Truth? There is no truth. Merely conjecture. Period. Stop arguing with
>> me until you understand it.
>
> The truth is the G.W. Bush and John McCain both agree that Global Warming
> is a problem. Period.

No, they don't Look again. The terminology is "Climate Change". Small
difference.


>
> So get a clue.

I already have one. It's a cyclic phenomenon, and no amount of petitioning
is going to stop it.

>
> Jeff

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:34:29 -0500, dr_jeff wrote:

> Here's an example of a Democrat who does encourage wind power:
>
> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a3IssawSnqcQ&refer=home>

And one who doesn't:

But, it turns out, Kennedy's antipathy to furtive rules changes and
backroom power plays stops at the water's edge -- specifically, the waters
of Nantucket Sound, which separates Cape Cod (where the Kennedy family has
an oceanfront compound in Hyannis Port) from the islands of Nantucket and
Martha's Vineyard. A shoal in the center of Nantucket Sound is where Cape
Wind Associates hopes to build the nation's first offshore wind farm -- an
array of 130 wind turbines capable of generating enough electricity to
meet 75 percent of the Cape and Islands' energy needs, without burning any
oil or emitting any pollution. The turbines would be miles from any
coastal property, barely visible on the horizon. In fact, Cape Wind says
they would be farther away from the nearest home than any other
electricity generation project in Massachusetts.

But like a lot of well-to-do Cape and Islands landowners and sailing
enthusiasts, Kennedy doesn't want to share his Atlantic playground with an
energy facility, no matter how clean, green, and nearly unseen. Last month
he secretly arranged for a poison-pill amendment, never debated in either
house of Congress, to be slipped into an unrelated Coast Guard bill. It
would give the governor of Massachusetts, who just happens to be a wind
farm opponent, unilateral authority to veto the Cape Wind project.



Two weeks after he gave the Obama's a Portugese Water Dog, Kennedy showed
up at the doorstep to petition Obama to stop the wind project off Cape
Cod. Obama pretty much told him to hit the bricks.

Hope that brib...er, dog didn't cost a LOT...