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From: hls on 14 Dec 2009 15:35 "Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > In any case, a car on the road, driven under diverse weather > conditions, and varying warm-up and acceleration modes, is best left > to the owners own judgement regarding when to change the oil. > My opinion. > > --Vic And I fully agree.. It is the owner/driver, at the end of the day, who has to assume the responsibility for his maintenance diligency. (Except when someone dogs one unmercifully and dumps it on an unsuspecting used car buyer.)
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 14 Dec 2009 17:08 On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:24:16 -0600, jim wrote: > > > dr_jeff wrote: >> >> Vic Smith wrote: >> > On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:55:42 -0600, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> >> Here is a question for you to ponder. How is the "qualified >> >> mechanic" >> >> going to determine if the little blue haired lady's car needs more >> >> frequent oil changes? >> > >> > Is the Jiffy Lube guy a "qualified mechanic?" How about the "qualified >> > mechanic" whose business is slow? I think she's gonna need more >> > frequent oil changes. >> > >> > --Vic >> > >> > >> > >> How should a qualified mechanic know how often to change oil, other than >> following the recommended change intervals by the engineers who designed >> to the car? Mechanics are trained to fix things and do preventive >> maintenance. They don't have the training in organic chemistry, >> metallurgy or engineering to make better recommendations than the car >> makers. > > Most mechanics have working eyeballs. Do you think these engines could use > more frequent oil changes? > > http://delanytowing.com/candiscorner/media/blogs/a/oil-sludge.jpg I'd wait for an analysis... > http://www.schleeter.com/images/oil%20sludge%2098%20BMW.JPG
From: hls on 14 Dec 2009 17:18 "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote in message > > You could start dropping hints that this is what you want for Xmas: > > http://www.gmn-gmbh.net/GMN_Hatzfeld/Englisch/MultiPass.html Yeah, my sweetie would love to put that under our tree ;>) There are some good engine test labs here in Texas, and I have gone onto some of their sites, also SAE, but in most cases when there appears to be data, there is first a $$ charge. I posted earlier that I just changed my Solara oil and filter today, total expense $19.63. If I paid $20.00 for an oil analysis, that would be money rather poorly spent, woundnt it.....
From: hls on 14 Dec 2009 17:27 Here is a link to the Fram FAQ, which gives a minute bit of information on how the filters are tested and certified....Still no hard data, but worth an insomniac's second glance: http://www.fram.com/carcare/faq.php#q7
From: Ashton Crusher on 14 Dec 2009 20:24
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:12:47 -0600, "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > >"Ashton Crusher" <demi(a)moore.net> wrote in message >> You can spend your own money any way you want but there is no factual >> basis for your claim that such frequent oil changes are any benefit. >> You are still living in the world of 1960 oil. > >As I have said earlier, the book says 5000, less under severe conditions. >The two different dealerships I have bought from recommend 3500. It is >a small price to pay,and I am content with it. Hmm, a place that makes money by selling parts and service recommends short oil change intervals.... how surprising. |