Who was it who mentioned Fram oil filters and dropping oil pressure?
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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 22 Nov 2009 17:25 Who was it in the Subaru group that mentioned my low oil pressure might be caused by my using Fram oil filters? There may be something to this. I picked up yet another 1992 Grand Something-or-other (in this case, a Grand Caravan. The last two were V'gers...). It has 239,000 miles on it. I got it on eBay for $150 and had to go 135 miles to pick it up. To make a long story short, we had to cut and crimp one of the rear brake lines to get the thing to move without emptying the brake cylinder, and the plan was to drive it within 100 miles from home and call AAA..."It blew a brake line!" No need. The crimp held and the thing ran so well I drove it the entire way home! Of course, I told "Jane" to avoid highways, so it was 92 miles through Providence and back into Mass and on to home. All the way the oil press. guage was about 1/2 way up the guage, occasionally dropping a little below on a 68 degree November day in the middle of Providence. Other than that, it stayed right around the halfway mark the entire trip. Today I gave it a 'service', oil change, air filter and tranny juice and filter. I used a Fram TG oil filter since if you bought a jug (5 qts) of Valvoline oil you got the filter $2 off. Maybe it's just on the Subaru? NOPE! After I changed the oil and took it for a test, the oil pressure guage had dropped a whole mark off halfway! I don't believe it! I'm going to wait until the next nice day, pull the oil filter and put on something like a Wix. Never had that problem with either OEM or Wix filters, and Wix got high ratings from Consumer's Reports.
From: hls on 22 Nov 2009 17:34 "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.11.22.22.25.20.483712(a)e86.GTS... > NOPE! After I changed the oil and took it for a test, the oil pressure > guage had dropped a whole mark off halfway! I don't believe it! > > I'm going to wait until the next nice day, pull the oil filter and put on > something like a Wix. Never had that problem with either OEM or Wix > filters, and Wix got high ratings from Consumer's Reports. > Those indicating gauges are often very inaccurate. Also, there may have been a difference between the oil you drained out and the oil you put in, viscosity wise. I have never had a problem with a Fram, but I have pussed out and avoid them strictly on their reputation.
From: dsi1 on 22 Nov 2009 18:45 hls wrote: > > "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2009.11.22.22.25.20.483712(a)e86.GTS... > >> NOPE! After I changed the oil and took it for a test, the oil pressure >> guage had dropped a whole mark off halfway! I don't believe it! >> >> I'm going to wait until the next nice day, pull the oil filter and put on >> something like a Wix. Never had that problem with either OEM or Wix >> filters, and Wix got high ratings from Consumer's Reports. >> > Those indicating gauges are often very inaccurate. Also, there may have > been a difference between the oil you drained out and the oil you put in, > viscosity wise. > > I have never had a problem with a Fram, but I have pussed out and avoid > them strictly on their reputation. Couldn't this also have meant that the filter may have been restricting the oil flow i.e., clogged up? Just guessing.
From: hls on 22 Nov 2009 19:08 "dsi1" <dsi1(a)spamnet.com> wrote in message news:r2kOm.28472$cd7.12136(a)newsfe04.iad... >> >> I have never had a problem with a Fram, but I have pussed out and avoid >> them strictly on their reputation. > > Couldn't this also have meant that the filter may have been restricting > the oil flow i.e., clogged up? Just guessing. It could mean a lot of things. Remember he changed both the filter and the oil on this car, and measured the results with a rather inaccurate gauge. There are a lot of variables here. If he wants to eliminate Fram from the equation, change to a Wix, or something else, as he suggested. Now, going back to the OP, he apparently just picked up this higher mileage vehicle. How do we know what the seller added to the crankcase? He will just have to work through this item by item,and I hope he will post the results
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 22 Nov 2009 20:10
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:08:05 -0600, hls wrote: > > "dsi1" <dsi1(a)spamnet.com> wrote in message > news:r2kOm.28472$cd7.12136(a)newsfe04.iad... > > >>> I have never had a problem with a Fram, but I have pussed out and avoid >>> them strictly on their reputation. >> >> Couldn't this also have meant that the filter may have been restricting >> the oil flow i.e., clogged up? Just guessing. > > It could mean a lot of things. Remember he changed both the filter and > the oil > on this car, and measured the results with a rather inaccurate gauge. > > There are a lot of variables here. > > If he wants to eliminate Fram from the equation, change to a Wix, or > something else, > as he suggested. > > Now, going back to the OP, he apparently just picked up this higher > mileage vehicle. > How do we know what the seller added to the crankcase? > > He will just have to work through this item by item,and I hope he will > post the results I also have an '89 Soob GL Coupe, AWD. When I replaced the oil filter with a Fram, the pressure dropped... I have an '88 Supra. When I replaced the filter with a Fram... I remember someone in the Soob group mentioned something about Fram filters when I was talking about low oil p before, and now it's three for three... I think next time (~800 miles for the Soob) I'm going to hunt down a Wix filter and see what happens... |