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From: Clive on 23 Feb 2010 18:56 In message <hm0t51$iqt$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, C. E. White <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> writes > For a Ford with factory cruise >since at least in the early 90s the cruise has the following >deactivation modes - the brake pedal switch (incorporated with the >brake light switch), the off switch on steering wheel, a function that >turns off the cruise control if the vehicles speed drops more than a >few mph below the set point, and that brake line switch. The brake >line switch is a normally closed switch that is opened by brake >pressure. It is not just an indicator, it physically cuts the power >feed to the cruise control. No power, not cruise control activation. My Toyota's cruise control can either be switched of at the steering wheel or by just touching either the brake or clutch peddles. A woman on American TV today testified that her Lexus just accelerated away, despite which gear she used, including neutral, reverse and park, either she's lying through her teeth or the car had a very weird AT. -- Clive.
From: AZ Nomad on 23 Feb 2010 19:14 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:56:43 +0000, Clive <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <hm0t51$iqt$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, C. E. White ><cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> writes >> For a Ford with factory cruise >>since at least in the early 90s the cruise has the following >>deactivation modes - the brake pedal switch (incorporated with the >>brake light switch), the off switch on steering wheel, a function that >>turns off the cruise control if the vehicles speed drops more than a >>few mph below the set point, and that brake line switch. The brake >>line switch is a normally closed switch that is opened by brake >>pressure. It is not just an indicator, it physically cuts the power >>feed to the cruise control. No power, not cruise control activation. >My Toyota's cruise control can either be switched of at the steering >wheel or by just touching either the brake or clutch peddles. > A woman on American TV today testified that her Lexus just >accelerated away, despite which gear she used, including neutral, >reverse and park, either she's lying through her teeth or the car had a >very weird AT. and somebody cut her brake lines, wired the ignition to short on, disabled both tranny and brake safety switches... Then undid all the damage including replacing the brake lines and lost fluid on the wrecked car while nobody was looking. No way it could be a fool confusing the pedals like all those cases of unintended acceleration on audis before audi put in the interlock.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 23 Feb 2010 23:53 On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:32:41 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:48:40 -0500, "C. E. White" > <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > > >>"Ed Maier" <evmaiertakethisout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:hlu5is$uvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >>>> Read Kimberley A. Strassel's article in this weekend's Wall Street >>>> Journal. >>>> >>>> Seems the whole flap has indeed been concocted by the owners of >>>> Government >>>> Motors, and now it's backfiring on them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Here's a link to Strassel's article: >>> http://online.wsj.com/article/potomac_watch.html >>> >>> Eddie >> >>Can you summarize the article. I don't subscribe, so I could only see the >>teaser. Sounds like another Government scandal in the making. >> >>Ed >> >> > > It's an opinion piece without a shred of evidence for it's allegations. A > typical right wing hit piece aimed at undermining the Obama > Administration. The WSJ has no credibility anymore. So far, EVERYTHING about Toyota is an 'opinion piece' without anything pointing one way or the other.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 23 Feb 2010 23:56 On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:03:29 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote: >> Some medling is justified, even necessary ( some level of safety >> standards for instance), but all to often politicians try to >> micro-adjust the economy to buy votes. It rarely works out well. >> > The biggest meddler here is the press - including her - and Toyota owners > who want the issues resolved. > And most of the "pressure" is coming from Toyota owners. The conspiracy > wackos and fanboys are in another category. I guess you didn't see where I said if Toyota comes up with a mea culpa, and doesn't do something about it then it's time to go shopping for another car. At least one that's closer than 2,500 miles away.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 23 Feb 2010 23:59
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:33:40 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:56:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >>On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:26:54 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> >>>>And if none of the things I've said above happen, I'm going to turn my >>>>back on them just the same as I have GM. >>>> >>>>so there. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Latest news is the Toyota Memo where they all pat themselves on the >>> back for talking their way out of a recall (which has now backfired) >>> and saving $100 million in the process. When Ford allegedly did that >>> with the Pinto you Toyota fan boys were all over Ford for it, where's >>> your condemnation for Toyota? >> >>Look up Ford Automatic Transmission Recall. 14M vehicles. Ford printed >>14M stickers for the dash that said "This vehicle may go from Park to >>Reverse at any time without warning." >> >>My roomate stuck his to our refrigerator. >> >> >> > > I see you avoided answering the question. I'm biding my time. The Ford thing is a Done Deal. I want to see if Toyota starts backpedaling... and if I get a recall on my Scion... Here's a surprise for you all...my '05 Scion is NOT as well made as my previous Toyotas. Don't breath on the sheet metal... |