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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 6 Feb 2010 22:36
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:37:05 -0500, David Z wrote:

> "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:kpednWokXefrg_PWnZ2dnUVZ_jBi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
>> In article <pan.2010.02.06.21.53.49.524026(a)e86.GTS>, Hachiroku
>> �n�`�ç�N <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:06:03 -0600, dbu'' wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > There is quite a contrast between my experiences with "big three" and
>>> > Toyota. I won't be going back there any time soon.
>>>
>>> Wait...won't be going to Toyota? One recall and you're scared off? ;)
>>>
>>> People don't seem to understand, it's also how a car company treats
>>> you.
>>>
>>> Any problems with my Toyota, new or used, that were cause by Toyota
>>> were repaired by Toyota (of course, I won't be taking a Supra with
>>> 178,000 miles on it and saying "Fix the tranny!" Man's got to know his
>>> limitations!)
>>>
>>> But other problems were taken car of, no trouble. No arguing. No
>>> nothing except a repaired car that lasted for years.
>>>
>>> People who odn't like rice need something to cry about when a Jap car
>>> company shows it makes mistakes, albeit many times fewer than their
>>> American counterparts.
>>>
>>> Hey, Toyota! Welcome to the wonderful world of US made parts!
>>
>> I won't be going back to the big three anytime soon. My next vehicle,
>> new one will be a Toyota, maybe an RAV4 when we get down to one vehicle.
>
> Toyota's stumble is definitely a big opportunity for GM and Ford, in that
> order. Competition is a good thing. As the GM commercial says, let the
> best car win.


I think Government Motors right now is an Also Ran.

Fords are hot now.


From: fred on 7 Feb 2010 01:02
"Al Falfa" <crop(a)eastforty.fld> wrote in
news:4b6c9c18$1(a)newsgate.x-privat.org:

>
>
> "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:7t2rhsFv0uU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>
>> With car recalls, ideally, the press should find out about the
>> problem when the recall is announced. The problem here, IMO, is that
>> a culture has evolved at Toyota whereby they deny and stonewall
>> problems until they are forced into admitting them. That's the
>> lesson here.
>>
>> The first "crash" happened years ago. Toyota has had plenty of time
>> to investigate. Instead they've used that time denying the problem
>> exists.
> The fear is that the problem will be revealed before a fix is in place
> because if it is, sales will grind to a standstill. Clearly Toyota
> knew there was a problem with the 2010 Prius brakes because they fixed
> it and changed their assembly last month. At that time there were
> defective Prius in dealer showrooms, distributor lots and on boats
> heading away from their plants. By admitting the problem these cars
> would become unsalable until repaired. Moreover, they had plenty of
> time to tell people there brakes might not work in some situations but
> didn't do so. Frankly, I believe a crime has been committed.
>
And what *exactly* is the criminal offence you're referring to? idiots
that can't think clearly enough to know to shift that car into neutral
were given a drivers licence without cause in the less than 2 dozen
cases where something's actually happened?

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