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From: ByTor on 30 Dec 2009 10:06 In article <PqKdndj4OZ1R-qbWnZ2dnUVZ_vJi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, utz(a)msu.edu says... > > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > > news:pan.2009.12.30.12.42.02.404488(a)e86.GTS... > >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:54:54 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > >> > >>> On December 22, 2001, Richard Reid ? known more infamously as the > >>> shoe bomber ? failed in his attempt to blow up a Miami-bound jet using > >>> explosives hidden in his shoe. Coming less than four months after > >>> September 11, there already were deep concerns about a potential > >>> attack during the upcoming holiday break. > >> > >> Wow. Eight years ago. Think of all the technology that has been developed > >> and not applied since then. > > > > No new technology will solve the problem at hand. You know that. Your news > > source has explained this many times since 2001. > > > > Right? > > Let's think about this. The would-be bomber's father told the US gov't > that he was a danger. Yet, he wasn't added to any terrorist lists. Gee, > using computer technology would have stop this guy. Yep, just like they ignored the Ft. Hood shooter, and they *HAD* the evidence due to technology. > Technology is not able to stop terrorists, but, using will quite often > thwart terrorists and greatly slow the rate at which they can do > attacks. But that's only if technology is employed properly, which the > TSA and other gov't agencies haven't been doing. > > Jeff Add being *politically correct* to the reasons why technologies are not employed properly and you'll have a much better explanation for ineffectivness.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 30 Dec 2009 10:12 "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message news:00b74016$0$12997$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > In article <PqKdndj4OZ1R-qbWnZ2dnUVZ_vJi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, utz(a)msu.edu > says... >> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> > news:pan.2009.12.30.12.42.02.404488(a)e86.GTS... >> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:54:54 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >> >> >> >>> On December 22, 2001, Richard Reid ? known more infamously as the >> >>> shoe bomber ? failed in his attempt to blow up a Miami-bound jet >> >>> using >> >>> explosives hidden in his shoe. Coming less than four months after >> >>> September 11, there already were deep concerns about a potential >> >>> attack during the upcoming holiday break. >> >> >> >> Wow. Eight years ago. Think of all the technology that has been >> >> developed >> >> and not applied since then. >> > >> > No new technology will solve the problem at hand. You know that. Your >> > news >> > source has explained this many times since 2001. >> > >> > Right? >> >> Let's think about this. The would-be bomber's father told the US gov't >> that he was a danger. Yet, he wasn't added to any terrorist lists. Gee, >> using computer technology would have stop this guy. > > Yep, just like they ignored the Ft. Hood shooter, and they *HAD* the > evidence due to technology. > >> Technology is not able to stop terrorists, but, using will quite often >> thwart terrorists and greatly slow the rate at which they can do >> attacks. But that's only if technology is employed properly, which the >> TSA and other gov't agencies haven't been doing. >> >> Jeff > > Add being *politically correct* to the reasons why technologies are not > employed properly and you'll have a much better explanation for > ineffectivness. That's not "it" either. We can adopt new technology every day and still not keep up with innovative ways of causing trouble on airplanes. We need to adopt methods used by the Israelis right now, and let air travelers know that the give up certain rights and expectations of privacy when they walk into the door of an airport. You know the Israeli methods I'm talking about, because you read a lot. So I don't need to go into specifics, right? The method has been around since the appearance of humans on this planet.
From: dr_jeff on 30 Dec 2009 10:43 JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > news:PqKdndj4OZ1R-qbWnZ2dnUVZ_vJi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2009.12.30.12.42.02.404488(a)e86.GTS... >>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:54:54 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >>>> >>>>> On December 22, 2001, Richard Reid ? known more infamously as the >>>>> shoe bomber ? failed in his attempt to blow up a Miami-bound jet using >>>>> explosives hidden in his shoe. Coming less than four months after >>>>> September 11, there already were deep concerns about a potential >>>>> attack during the upcoming holiday break. >>>> Wow. Eight years ago. Think of all the technology that has been >>>> developed >>>> and not applied since then. >>> No new technology will solve the problem at hand. You know that. Your >>> news source has explained this many times since 2001. >>> >>> Right? >> Let's think about this. The would-be bomber's father told the US gov't >> that he was a danger. Yet, he wasn't added to any terrorist lists. Gee, >> using computer technology would have stop this guy. > > > Since when are typing and networking considered NEW TECHNOLOGY? This also involves new technology with databases, computer networking and identifying patterns. A lot of this technology is very new.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 30 Dec 2009 10:44 "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:4q-dneQKpuu96KbWnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message >> news:PqKdndj4OZ1R-qbWnZ2dnUVZ_vJi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:pan.2009.12.30.12.42.02.404488(a)e86.GTS... >>>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:54:54 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On December 22, 2001, Richard Reid ? known more infamously as the >>>>>> shoe bomber ? failed in his attempt to blow up a Miami-bound jet >>>>>> using >>>>>> explosives hidden in his shoe. Coming less than four months after >>>>>> September 11, there already were deep concerns about a potential >>>>>> attack during the upcoming holiday break. >>>>> Wow. Eight years ago. Think of all the technology that has been >>>>> developed >>>>> and not applied since then. >>>> No new technology will solve the problem at hand. You know that. Your >>>> news source has explained this many times since 2001. >>>> >>>> Right? >>> Let's think about this. The would-be bomber's father told the US gov't >>> that he was a danger. Yet, he wasn't added to any terrorist lists. Gee, >>> using computer technology would have stop this guy. >> >> >> Since when are typing and networking considered NEW TECHNOLOGY? > > This also involves new technology with databases, computer networking and > identifying patterns. A lot of this technology is very new. It's still not the answer. We need to do EXACTLY what's done by the Israelis. You're a well informed guy. I don't need to tell you what the Israelis do, right?
From: dr_jeff on 30 Dec 2009 10:59
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > news:4q-dneQKpuu96KbWnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message >>> news:PqKdndj4OZ1R-qbWnZ2dnUVZ_vJi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>> news:pan.2009.12.30.12.42.02.404488(a)e86.GTS... >>>>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:54:54 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On December 22, 2001, Richard Reid ? known more infamously as the >>>>>>> shoe bomber ? failed in his attempt to blow up a Miami-bound jet >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> explosives hidden in his shoe. Coming less than four months after >>>>>>> September 11, there already were deep concerns about a potential >>>>>>> attack during the upcoming holiday break. >>>>>> Wow. Eight years ago. Think of all the technology that has been >>>>>> developed >>>>>> and not applied since then. >>>>> No new technology will solve the problem at hand. You know that. Your >>>>> news source has explained this many times since 2001. >>>>> >>>>> Right? >>>> Let's think about this. The would-be bomber's father told the US gov't >>>> that he was a danger. Yet, he wasn't added to any terrorist lists. Gee, >>>> using computer technology would have stop this guy. >>> >>> Since when are typing and networking considered NEW TECHNOLOGY? >> This also involves new technology with databases, computer networking and >> identifying patterns. A lot of this technology is very new. > > > It's still not the answer. We need to do EXACTLY what's done by the > Israelis. You're a well informed guy. I don't need to tell you what the > Israelis do, right? Actually, I don't know. But at what price do what the Isrealis do come? |