From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:38:06 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:lP2dncD_oIaPBKfWnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>> In article <ICw_m.44019$_b5.42476(a)newsfe22.iad>, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2009.12.29.18.38.14.677416(a)e86.GTS...
>>> > On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:40:50 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Dec 29, 10:34 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>>> >>> $800,000,000 of equipment not deployed?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The TSA is really pathetic. I hope they actually do something
>>> >>> effective,
>>> >>> someday.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/29/earlyshow/contributors/main...
>>> >>
>>> >> What would you say needs to be done specifically at each level?
>>> >
>>> > Getting rid of people who have no clue what they're doing would be
>>> > one thing.
>>> >
>>> > I suggest starting at the top.
>>>
>>>
>>> The methods used by TSA were created after 9/11 and they are totally
>>> ineffective. If you don't like the methods (and you shouldn't like
>>> them), be
>>> sure to draw yourself a nice time line on your wall so you can
>>> accurately blame who was in power when the methods were created.
>>>
>>> Ask mom to help you.
>>
>> If what you say is true, "they are totally ineffective", then why hasn't
>> the obama changed them. He's had a whole year, but I understand he's
>> been playing golf and campaigning all year.
>
>
> You've never had a job which was stressful enough to require some down
> time, so the idea freaks you out when you hear about other people needing
> it.

Kind of an off-the-wall personal attack. What you usually resort to when
you're stuck in the corner....again...



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:52:14 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.12.29.18.38.14.677416(a)e86.GTS...
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:40:50 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 29, 10:34 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>>>> $800,000,000 of equipment not deployed?
>>>>
>>>> The TSA is really pathetic. I hope they actually do something
>>>> effective, someday.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/29/earlyshow/contributors/main...
>>>
>>> What would you say needs to be done specifically at each level?
>>
>> Getting rid of people who have no clue what they're doing would be one
>> thing.
>>
>> I suggest starting at the top.
>
>
> The methods used by TSA were created after 9/11 and they are totally
> ineffective. If you don't like the methods (and you shouldn't like them),
> be sure to draw yourself a nice time line on your wall so you can
> accurately blame who was in power when the methods were created.
>
> Ask mom to help you.

I did. She said, "Oh for Christ's Sake! Tell him to grow up! Bush isn't
President anymore."

1. She HATED Bush
2. She's a Democrat.

so there.



From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.12.29.23.09.00.875003(a)e86.GTS...
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:52:14 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2009.12.29.18.38.14.677416(a)e86.GTS...
>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:40:50 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Dec 29, 10:34 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>>>>> $800,000,000 of equipment not deployed?
>>>>>
>>>>> The TSA is really pathetic. I hope they actually do something
>>>>> effective, someday.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/29/earlyshow/contributors/main...
>>>>
>>>> What would you say needs to be done specifically at each level?
>>>
>>> Getting rid of people who have no clue what they're doing would be one
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> I suggest starting at the top.
>>
>>
>> The methods used by TSA were created after 9/11 and they are totally
>> ineffective. If you don't like the methods (and you shouldn't like them),
>> be sure to draw yourself a nice time line on your wall so you can
>> accurately blame who was in power when the methods were created.
>>
>> Ask mom to help you.
>
> I did. She said, "Oh for Christ's Sake! Tell him to grow up! Bush isn't
> President anymore."


No, she didn't say that. You are lying. What she really said is that after
30 fuckin' years, it's time for you to stop living with your mom.


From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.12.29.22.23.51.163347(a)e86.GTS...
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:38:06 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:lP2dncD_oIaPBKfWnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>> In article <ICw_m.44019$_b5.42476(a)newsfe22.iad>, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>> <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2009.12.29.18.38.14.677416(a)e86.GTS...
>>>> > On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:40:50 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Dec 29, 10:34 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>>>> >>> $800,000,000 of equipment not deployed?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The TSA is really pathetic. I hope they actually do something
>>>> >>> effective,
>>>> >>> someday.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/29/earlyshow/contributors/main...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> What would you say needs to be done specifically at each level?
>>>> >
>>>> > Getting rid of people who have no clue what they're doing would be
>>>> > one thing.
>>>> >
>>>> > I suggest starting at the top.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The methods used by TSA were created after 9/11 and they are totally
>>>> ineffective. If you don't like the methods (and you shouldn't like
>>>> them), be
>>>> sure to draw yourself a nice time line on your wall so you can
>>>> accurately blame who was in power when the methods were created.
>>>>
>>>> Ask mom to help you.
>>>
>>> If what you say is true, "they are totally ineffective", then why hasn't
>>> the obama changed them. He's had a whole year, but I understand he's
>>> been playing golf and campaigning all year.
>>
>>
>> You've never had a job which was stressful enough to require some down
>> time, so the idea freaks you out when you hear about other people needing
>> it.
>
> Kind of an off-the-wall personal attack. What you usually resort to when
> you're stuck in the corner....again...


Go make breakfast for your mommy.


From: edspyhill01 on
On Dec 29, 6:09 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:52:14 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> > "Hachiroku ????" <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> >news:pan.2009.12.29.18.38.14.677416(a)e86.GTS...
> >> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:40:50 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote:
>
> >>> On Dec 29, 10:34 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> >>>> $800,000,000 of equipment not deployed?
>
> >>>> The TSA is really pathetic. I hope they actually do something
> >>>> effective, someday.
>
> >>>>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/29/earlyshow/contributors/main...
>
> >>> What would you say needs to be done specifically at each level?
>
> >> Getting rid of people who have no clue what they're doing would be one
> >> thing.
>
> >> I suggest starting at the top.
>
> > The methods used by TSA were created after 9/11 and they are totally
> > ineffective. If you don't like the methods (and you shouldn't like them),
> > be sure to draw yourself a nice time line on your wall so you can
> > accurately blame who was in power when the methods were created.
>
> > Ask mom to help you.
>
> I did. She said, "Oh for Christ's Sake! Tell him to grow up! Bush isn't
> President anymore."
>
> 1. She HATED Bush
> 2. She's a Democrat.
>
> so there.


On December 22, 2001, Richard Reid $B!=(B known more infamously as the
shoe bomber $B!=(B failed in his attempt to blow up a Miami-bound jet using
explosives hidden in his shoe. Coming less than four months after
September 11, there already were deep concerns about a potential
attack during the upcoming holiday break. Nevertheless, President Bush
did not directly address the foiled plot for six days, according to an
extensive review of newspaper records from that time period. And when
he did, it was only in passing.

Two days after the incident on Dec. 24, the Boston Globe noted Bush$B!G(Bs
silence: $B!H(BWhite House spokesman Scott Stanzel said that President Bush
continued to monitor the situation and receive updates at Camp David.
Bush has not issued any statements about the incident.$B!I(B

Conservatives have also been hammering the Obama administration for
treating the Christmas Day plot as a law enforcement issue and for
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano$B!G(Bs remarks that the
$B!H(Bsystem, once the incident occurred, the system worked.$B!I(B

However, then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld also brushed aside
questions about the shoe bomber by saying the matter was $B!H(Bin the hands
of the law enforcement people,$B!I(B and then-Attorney General John
Ashcroft made comments similar to those of Napolitano.