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From: Mike Hunter on 13 Feb 2010 12:57 (Cross postings deleted, automatically) "Clive" <Clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:+8xkYmAMLudLFw75(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <o2ldn59i3j2jneobc8hd8i2fhcieg1i8uv(a)4ax.com>, > clare(a)snyder.on.ca writes >>UGLY, yes, but it would outhandle just about anything I could put it >>up against, and the suspension soaked up the WORST roads.. With the >>1300 engine it was underpowered, but the handling ballanced things >>out. > In those days the Renault 12 just like the Citroen GS had small > displacement ,high revving engines to give them a bit of power. This was > because the French government of the day taxed cars by engine > displacement, (cc in England, cubes in America) and not by BHP. > -- > Clive >
From: Mike Hunter on 13 Feb 2010 15:33 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) <clare(a)snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
From: Mike Hunter on 13 Feb 2010 15:33 (Cross posting deleted, automatically) "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:xPudnc2JAPjHmerWnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > On 02/13/2010 11:35 AM, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote: > nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim beam on 13 Feb 2010 18:01 On 02/13/2010 12:33 PM, Mike Hunter wrote: > (Cross posting deleted, automatically) don't be so freakin' retarded - stick to usenet etiquette. > > > "jim beam"<me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:xPudnc2JAPjHmerWnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... >> On 02/13/2010 11:35 AM, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote: >> nomina rutrum rutrum > > -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Ashton Crusher on 13 Feb 2010 19:42
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:20:35 -0500, IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote: >jr92 wrote: >> On Feb 11, 10:40 pm, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:56:32 -0500, IYM wrote: >>>> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:08:38 -0500, clare wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:03:57 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:13:48 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: >>>>>>>> That is largest number of different types of vehicles, as well as the >>>>>>>> highest total number, ever recalled by ANY other vehicle manufacturer >>>>>>>> in history according the AP story. >>>>>>> Bullshit. Ford had a recall of 12M vehicles for exploding cruise >>>>>>> controls. >>>>>> You need to look at the total number of vehicles each company had on >>>>>> the road at the time of the recalls, and the number involved. >>>>>> The percentage of Toyotas on the road subject to recall, even with the >>>>>> MASSIVE recalls currently under way, are significantly lower than the >>>>>> percentage of either Ford or GM over the years. >>>>> You're preaching to the chior. Over the years GM Ford and Chysler have >>>>> recalled millions and millions of vehicles for even more serious issues >>>>> than this; Ford even got away with issuing dashboard stickers for >>>>> transmissions that could slip from Park to Reverse. >>>> OMG! I remember that! But it wasn't that they would slip into >>>> reverse...I had a '76 Ford Granada with a automatic tranny that when you >>>> put it in park it occasionally wouldn't engage fully in the tranny, but on >>>> the column it was fine. The first time I discovered this, I had parked it >>>> on a very slight incline, got out of the car and started to walk away and >>>> then I heard "tick-tick-tick-tick..." getting progressively faster and >>>> looked to see the car rolling away! Had to run after it, unlock it while >>>> moving and jump in to hit the brake...Glad there was nothing around! lol >>>> Thier fix at the time was to issue a letter that said that this might >>>> happen and you should use the parking brake to prevent it from >>>> happening... lmao! NO car companies would not get away with that now, but >>>> Ford is a much different and better company now than in the 70's....and >>>> you have to remember too - Recalls were a "growing" evolution of car >>>> manufacturers and Gov'ts during that time. Back in the 60's 50's, 40's - >>>> There were no recalls...Things that happened on cars were considered >>>> "quirks" and owners were much more involved in the maintenance and fix of >>>> the cars than they are today's consumers, who demand 100% perfection all >>>> the time - no mistakes. So to say that "they got away with..." when you >>>> are referencing anything before, oh say around 1980 is kind of unfair. >>>> In fact, wasn't it the whole Ford Pinto gas tank thing in the 70's that >>>> really got the Gov't involved and the whole ball rolling on recalls and >>>> manufacturer's responsibility? >>> All true. What galls me is the people attacking TOyota and overlooking >>> some of these magnificent recalls from American companies, like recalls >>> are something new.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >> Recalls are by far nothing new. I remember when the likes of USA Today >> would front-page ANY recall GM or Ford had, no matter how insignicant >> it would be as far as safety or reliability was concerned. >> >> The big thing is the total number of recalls the Toyotas are having >> today. It's totally in the tens of millions over the past few years, >> and like a snowball rolling downhill, growing on an almost daily >> basis. You can whitewash it any way you want, they have major issues >> to deal with. >> >> And, unlike the tire pressure monitor, or dome light malfunction, or >> heaven forbid, the leaking gasket recalls GM had in the 80's and 90's, >> Toyota has REAL safety and relibility issues. >> >> Sludging engines. >> >> Rusting suspensions. >> >> Throttles sticking wide open. >> >> >> Braking issues. >> >> >> If you feel that Toyota is being unfairly attacked, then you know >> exactly how I feel about the way GM has been attacked for the past >> 25-30 years. >> >> >> Now, just compare the things on which the GM and Toyota were attacked. > > >Hey - just want to let everyone know that Toyota has gotten into >manufacturing keyboards and I picked one up today. Little pricey but >the quality seems >okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk > >damn.....never mind... :) Best post of the day .. |