From: edspyhill01 on
On Jul 3, 2:08 pm, Gary L. Burnore <gburn...(a)databasix.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 14:06:09 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 13:29:54 -0400, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>
> >>>All I know is, after being unemployed for a year, and having exhausted my
> >>>benefits, and not being able to get a job anywhere near my rate of pay
> >>>($17 an hour in 1991) I took a job...pumping gas.
>
> >> Good for you.
>
> >Why, yes! And if I can do it, others can, too.
>
> Collect unemployment?  Not according to your fellow republicans.
>
>
>
> >>>Trouble is now, people are unwilling to take any jobs 'beneath them' and
> >>>put the hand out to the government.
>
> >> You're still spouting party line that unemployment is a handout?  Feh.
>
> >Anything paid in by the companies has now been spent for a lot still
> >collecting.
>
> You really don't understand the concept, do you?  
>
> --
> gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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It's going to be a long "long weekend". The rightwingnuts are not
getting any new information so they will be stuck on last week's
talking points and positions.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:22:09 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

>>Does not create jobs. Maintains the jobs that are already there.
>>
>>
> Really Gary, what could you be thinking. To equate not losing jobs with
> creating jobs. Can't you see the incredible difference?

Keeping jobs /= "creating" jobs.

Why does you're not seeing this not surprise me?


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:25:12 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote:

>> I did shortly after that take a job in a plastics company making
>> blown-film plastic bags. It was a temp assignment and I was only needed
>> for three weeks while people were on vacation.
>>
>> At least I managed to keep all my fingers...
>>
>> But I also pumped gas and washed dishes before I got a computer gig.-
>> Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The truth is many employers don't want to hire people who are unemployed.
> Many want ads state that applicants must be employed.

I doubt it. That's against most employment laws.


From: edspyhill01 on
On Jul 3, 12:17 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 03:41:13 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote:
> >> That money will be going to pay a mortgage, which does not create jobs,
> >> or to pay for groceries, which does not create jobs, or to buy Chinese
> >> made goods, which ships the dfollar overseas.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Well, business genius, grocery shopping keeps people employed in minimum
> > wage jobs
>
> That's about all it does. It does not "create" jobs.
>
> As far as expanding jobs, nope. It maintains jobs already there.
>
> However, since the people have money to spend, it does not decrease jobs,
> either. If the UB were to go away, there would be more job loss.
>
> But saying it "creates" jobs only magnifies Pelousy's ignorance.

How are you going to create jobs? Government contracts? Paid by
national debt. Short of government contracts there are no jobs to
create in America. We don't create what we consume in our consumer
economy. We are in the perfect Neo-Con fast entropy economy and
culture. If you don't have a decent pump shotgun for hunting small
game all you got are paper weights.

Soon all politicians, no matter which side of the aisle they are on,
will have to start telling the truth to the American people. Part of
that truth is that the majority of us are drains on the government.
Reminds me of street level in Blade Runner. Also reminds me of the
Soviet Union after they had to flee Afghanistan.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:28:04 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote:

> On Jul 3, 2:08 pm, Gary L. Burnore <gburn...(a)databasix.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 14:06:09 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 13:29:54 -0400, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>
>> >>>All I know is, after being unemployed for a year, and having
>> >>>exhausted my benefits, and not being able to get a job anywhere near
>> >>>my rate of pay ($17 an hour in 1991) I took a job...pumping gas.
>>
>> >> Good for you.
>>
>> >Why, yes! And if I can do it, others can, too.
>>
>> Collect unemployment?  Not according to your fellow republicans.
>>
>>
>>
>> >>>Trouble is now, people are unwilling to take any jobs 'beneath them'
>> >>>and put the hand out to the government.
>>
>> >> You're still spouting party line that unemployment is a handout?
>> >>  Feh.
>>
>> >Anything paid in by the companies has now been spent for a lot still
>> >collecting.
>>
>> You really don't understand the concept, do you?  
>>
>> --
>> gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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> It's going to be a long "long weekend". The rightwingnuts are not getting
> any new information so they will be stuck on last week's talking points
> and positions.


There's plenty of 'new information' available.

Just none of it shores up the Empty Suit in the WH.