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From: Jane Galt on 29 Mar 2010 01:27 I'm also hearing that Obama's JBT's ( jack booted thugs ) started raiding and arresting militia groups in several states over the weekend. -- Jane Galt "There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide." -- Ayn Rand
From: C. E. White on 29 Mar 2010 09:16 "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message news:Xns9D49EE552EEC8JaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... > "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote : > >> If the Republicans had acted responsibly we probably would have >> gotten a >> better bill. Instead they tried to play politics and we got a >> second >> rate bill. > > They had nothing at all to do with it, they all voted against it. > > This was a battle between the "moderate" dems and the progressives ( > Communists with a nicer name ). > >> I'll get my chance to vote against one Republican Senator >> (Burr) who put dirty politics ahead of the best interest of his >> constituents this fall. He may keep his job, but it won't be with >> my >> help. > > You'll be the minority. 2/3 of the American people were against > socialist > medicine and they passed it anyway. It will be a bloodbath for the > dems > this fall, they will LOSE big time. I suspect you are right. That doesn't mean I have to participate. I have a long history of voting for losers. On the other hand, you can't blame me for any of the winners since Regean and Bush 1 (They were the last Presidents I voted for that won). I also think your claim about 2/3 of the American people being against "socialist medicine" is probably true but irrelevant. I am sure if you asked the American people "are you for socialist medicine" you would get a huge negative response. But that is the exact sort of slanted surveying that all politicians use when they want a particular answer. Why not ask "Should the US abolish Medicare and Medicaid?" What percent would answer yes to that question? Or what would be the response if I asked "Should all American have access to decent health care?" Ask the right question and you will get the response you want. The current health care reform bill is a mess, but at least it moves the ball down the feild. You can say that the Republicans offered suggestions and the Democrats refused to hear them, but that is just more Republican whining. The Republicans made it clear from the beginning that their main goal was to kill off any reform bill by whatever means necessary. I can understand how the Republican strategist thought this was a good idea. Maybe it will work for them. But I didn't like the tactic and I hope they lose their collectives asses over it. Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing a bunch of Democratic incumbents out on their asses as well. A 100% turn over in Congress would suit me. Ed
From: Jane Galt on 30 Mar 2010 01:25
"C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote : > I also think your claim about 2/3 of the American people being against > "socialist medicine" is probably true but irrelevant. I am sure if you > asked the American people "are you for socialist medicine" you would > get a huge negative response. But that is the exact sort of slanted > surveying that all politicians use when they want a particular answer. > Why not ask "Should the US abolish Medicare and Medicaid?" What > percent would answer yes to that question? Or what would be the > response if I asked "Should all American have access to decent health > care?" Ask the right question and you will get the response you want. The term "access" is being misused. We all have access right now, only some cant afford to pay for it. The correct term for what you suggest, is "access by forcing others to pay for it", IOW stealing from some to pay the way of others. The following article was written about HillaryCare and explains the false morality of forcing some people, at gunpoint, to pay the way of others. It is essentially not "charity" but legalized looting. http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=9 -- Jane Galt "There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide." -- Ayn Rand |