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From: C. E. White on 28 Mar 2010 17:24 "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message news:4bae736a$0$1716$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... > AARP is basically in the Insurance business and the high profit Medicare > gap plans. Now people will be REQUIRED to buy health insurance or be > taxed an additional percentage of their gross income. The kicker is you > must buy it from those same insurance companies that BO and the Dims in > Congress were telling you where the ones causing of all the healthcare > problems If you don't pay the tax you can be jailed. Is that the change > YOU voted for? ;) If the Republicans had acted responsibly we probably would have gotten a better bill. Instead they tried to play politics and we got a second rate bill. I'll get my chance to vote against one Republican Senator (Burr) who put dirty politics ahead of the best interest of his constituents this fall. He may keep his job, but it won't be with my help. Ed
From: Mike Hunter on 28 Mar 2010 20:08 I was mealy pointing out that AARP is primary in the insurance business. As to the VALUE of what it sells, gap insurance for those on Medicare is the most expensive type to purchase. The scare folks by telling them they do need and referrals and can see any doctor. Advantage Plans PPO offers a much better value for seniors and cost at 2/3 less per month and one does need referrals and they can see any doctor. "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message news:F_ednSAFs8p4IzLWnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d(a)giganews.com... > In article <4baf8dc7$0$19699$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: > >> The AARP was never good for seniors, they were only ever interested in >> selling them something, primary INSURANCE. This bill simply forces more >> people to buy from the insurance companies who they were telling everyone >> was the CAUSE of our healthcare problems. How stupid were these people >> to >> fall for all that BS from BO and the Dims in congress? > > Mike, having been a successful businessman as you've been, you would not > hesitate to purchase insurance or any other product that would save > money in your business, likewise, being a successful individual and keen > on keeping costs down I select where I can save the most money and > holding down insurance costs regardless political implications, of which > does not impact me one whit. I vote and for what my one vote is worth > does not matter in the end which entity I choose to buy my insurance > from. Does that make sense? > > > >> >> >> "in2dadark" <in2dadark(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:a72d5826-757c-4fea-8b7d-d9fec879efca(a)q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com... >> On Mar 26, 9:36 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...(a)geemail.com> wrote: >> > On 25/03/10 8:18 AM, dbu'' wrote: >> > >> > > In article<4bab70d5$0$16546$ce5e7...(a)news-radius.ptd.net>, >> > > "Mike Hunter"<Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: >> > >> > >> Will it still not be a Big Deal when YOUR taxes, and the costs of >> > >> what >> > >> YOU >> > >> buy go, up to pay just the interest on the trillions of dollars the >> > >> healthcare bill will cost your employer and he lays you off or sends >> > >> you job >> > >> overseas? >> > >> > > I'm retired Mike and do not have anything to worry about. They would >> > > not dare to fuxx with us O.F.s, for we have the power of AARP, 40 >> > > million strong and would not hesitate to take the offending >> > > politicians >> > > to the wood shed for a good lesson in not fuxxing with the O.F.s. :) >> > >> > The AARP supported the health care bill because it was a net positive >> > for seniors, even though Medicare Advantage is going to be cut >> > eventually. >> > >> > OTOH, the AARP is not the political organization it once was. It has >> > become a marketing organization selling high-price car insurance and >> > property insurance to people that don't know any better. I'm not >> > retired, but as soon as I turned 50 they started mailing me stuff. I >> > joined for one year (free membership through Walgreen's). What a joke. >> > All the products they promote are a rip-off, _especially_ the insurance >> > products. We pay far less for auto and homeowners insurance that the >> > companies they are affiliated with charge. Any other discounts they >> > offer are no better than similar discounts available from other >> > organizations that don't charge for membership. >> >> Yep. They constantly want me to sell their medicare products. When I >> compare them to the ones I currently sell, I tell them no thanks; it's >> not worth the time to get licensed with them to end up selling >> nothing. > -- >
From: Mike Hunter on 28 Mar 2010 20:14 When you say grin and bear it do you mean if one does not already have insurance they should gladly buy it from the same folks that BO and the Dims have been saying are the CAUSE of all our healthcare problems, the insurance companies. Does grin and bear it mean we that already have insurance should be happy to pay the same people MORE for the coverage we CURRENTLY have. That what the new law is makings do, so grin and bear it. LOL "FridoLay" <FridoLay12(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:AJOdnSEyOb-KVTLWnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d(a)giganews.com... > On 3/26/2010 11:43 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:35:06 -0400, FridoLay wrote: >> >>>>> Somebody's got to pay for the wars (actually, police actions) and the >>>>> insane paranoia on the Canadian border. You think this *its's FREE?? >>>> >>>> >>>> The taxes are part of the health care bill. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Which passed, which means more money coming in, which means bills get >>> paid. It might be convenient but would be naive to think of it nicely >>> apportioned for this and that. Last I heard, US infrastructure sux, it's >>> million $/solder/per year. Quadruple that for incidentals + 1/2 again >>> for >>> the contractors we apparently need to do the job. You do the math. >> >> What does all this have to do with the new taxes for health care? >> >> >> > It's means: taxes are used to pay for government services. We've been > using a LOT of government services lately. Now's as good a time as any to > pay up. Sure it hurts, sure we all wish there were another way but we need > to grin and bear it and, there isn't.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 28 Mar 2010 23:42 On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:20:23 -0400, FridoLay wrote: > On 3/26/2010 11:43 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:35:06 -0400, FridoLay wrote: >> >>>>> Somebody's got to pay for the wars (actually, police actions) and the >>>>> insane paranoia on the Canadian border. You think this *its's FREE?? >>>> >>>> >>>> The taxes are part of the health care bill. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Which passed, which means more money coming in, which means bills get >>> paid. It might be convenient but would be naive to think of it nicely >>> apportioned for this and that. Last I heard, US infrastructure sux, >>> it's million $/solder/per year. Quadruple that for incidentals + 1/2 >>> again for the contractors we apparently need to do the job. You do the >>> math. >> >> What does all this have to do with the new taxes for health care? >> >> >> > It's means: taxes are used to pay for government services. We've been > using a LOT of government services lately. Now's as good a time as any to > pay up. Sure it hurts, sure we all wish there were another way but we need > to grin and bear it and, there isn't. The NEW taxes are going to be used to offset the "deficit neutral" health care bill. They are written in as part of the law. So are the fines if you do not have health care. They did the same thing as in Mass. You WILL buy healtcare, period.
From: Jane Galt on 29 Mar 2010 01:25
"C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote : > If the Republicans had acted responsibly we probably would have gotten a > better bill. Instead they tried to play politics and we got a second > rate bill. They had nothing at all to do with it, they all voted against it. This was a battle between the "moderate" dems and the progressives ( Communists with a nicer name ). > I'll get my chance to vote against one Republican Senator > (Burr) who put dirty politics ahead of the best interest of his > constituents this fall. He may keep his job, but it won't be with my > help. You'll be the minority. 2/3 of the American people were against socialist medicine and they passed it anyway. It will be a bloodbath for the dems this fall, they will LOSE big time. -- Jane Galt "There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide." -- Ayn Rand |