Are any Toyota products sold in US not made or assembled in US?
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From: badgolferman on 9 Feb 2007 20:49 Joe Lauton, 2/9/2007,4:33:56 PM, wrote: > Are any Toyota products sold in US not 'made or assembled' in US? > Half the parts likely come from China, Mexico and similar places. > Where would this kind of info be found? Just looking for some rough > numbers for an argument. > jl I used to have a 1994 Camry made in USA and currently have a 1997 Camry made in Japan. My 94 Camry was built much more solidly and was quieter than my 97 Camry. Not only that, but when I bought my 97 from the dealer with 62K miles on it the piston rings, valve seals and rocker arms had to be replaced because it was smoking on startups a month later. I will say it has been reliable ever since but it is still cheaper feeling than the 94 Camry. My friend has a 97 Camry V6 that was built in USA and he has had very few problems with it. He has 205K and recently I got a side mirror for my car and one for his. The difference in padding between the mirror and the door was at least twice more for his mirror than mine. Unfortunately his connector was different than mine otherwise I would have switched mirrors if I could.
From: Fred Fazemeier on 10 Feb 2007 03:26 "Joe Lauton" <JL(a)Lauton2000.com> wrote in message news:1tpps21j2a078v9takujda45t5689tsj7m(a)4ax.com... > Are any Toyota products sold in US not 'made or assembled' in US? > Half the parts likely come from China, Mexico and similar places. > Where would this kind of info be found? Just looking for some rough > numbers for an argument. > jl On new Toyota products, there is a sticker on the side window that alleges the percentage of parts content made in what country. Roy
From: Fred Fazemeier on 10 Feb 2007 03:34 "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:xn0f29iyl1p1h1k000(a)news.readfreenews.net... > Joe Lauton, 2/9/2007,4:33:56 PM, wrote: > > > Are any Toyota products sold in US not 'made or assembled' in US? > > Half the parts likely come from China, Mexico and similar places. > > Where would this kind of info be found? Just looking for some rough > > numbers for an argument. > > jl > > I used to have a 1994 Camry made in USA and currently have a 1997 Camry > made in Japan. My 94 Camry was built much more solidly and was quieter > than my 97 Camry. Not only that, but when I bought my 97 from the > dealer with 62K miles on it the piston rings, valve seals and rocker > arms had to be replaced because it was smoking on startups a month > later. I will say it has been reliable ever since but it is still > cheaper feeling than the 94 Camry. > > My friend has a 97 Camry V6 that was built in USA and he has had very > few problems with it. He has 205K and recently I got a side mirror for > my car and one for his. The difference in padding between the mirror > and the door was at least twice more for his mirror than mine. > Unfortunately his connector was different than mine otherwise I would > have switched mirrors if I could. I have had similar experiences. I had an '87 Camry 4 (obviously Japan, US manufacture hadn't started), best car ever. I bought a used '90 V6 after that, American made, it took $2000 to bring it up to normal, after that is was OK, but dying at 170K. A '96 after that, American, luckily a Certified car, it had small issues that were covered under warranty but was a great driver, a Previa, Japanese, bulletproof , a Highlander, 100K with only oil changes and a set of tires, bulletproof, now a 2002 Camry, Japanese, 42K, lost the driver's door locking mechanism (minor), otherwise flawless. My feeling about the Camry from '97 until '02 was that they were not the same car, they seemed to get the clue and made them bigger and better in 2002. I am 6' 4" and could barely fit in the '97 car, I felt hemmed in, hence the '96 purchase. The '02 is perfect.
From: n5hsr on 10 Feb 2007 06:25 "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:xn0f29iyl1p1h1k000(a)news.readfreenews.net... > Joe Lauton, 2/9/2007,4:33:56 PM, wrote: > >> Are any Toyota products sold in US not 'made or assembled' in US? >> Half the parts likely come from China, Mexico and similar places. >> Where would this kind of info be found? Just looking for some rough >> numbers for an argument. >> jl > > I used to have a 1994 Camry made in USA and currently have a 1997 Camry > made in Japan. My 94 Camry was built much more solidly and was quieter > than my 97 Camry. Not only that, but when I bought my 97 from the > dealer with 62K miles on it the piston rings, valve seals and rocker > arms had to be replaced because it was smoking on startups a month > later. I will say it has been reliable ever since but it is still > cheaper feeling than the 94 Camry. > > My friend has a 97 Camry V6 that was built in USA and he has had very > few problems with it. He has 205K and recently I got a side mirror for > my car and one for his. The difference in padding between the mirror > and the door was at least twice more for his mirror than mine. > Unfortunately his connector was different than mine otherwise I would > have switched mirrors if I could. That's odd, we've not had more issues with the Japanese ones. My 93 was US made, and we had a lot of trouble with the US made alternetor (As MDT Tech would say, it's a Delco-REAMME) My sister bought a 94 that is Japanese made. Same spec as the US 93, doesn't get quite the same mileage, but is a hot little number. The 95's are both US made, but my sister-in-law's Previa is Japanese. The problem we are having with the Previa is the last person that worked on it claimed to have replaced the head gasket, but did not. (That was that Toyota dealer that wanted 2200 in just parts to repair it, when it turned out to be the battery, also they are now starting to fill tires with nitrogen.)
From: C. E. White on 11 Feb 2007 11:59
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:rPednW3Rv57zgVDYUSdV9g(a)ptd.net... > It depends if one is referring to the Toyota brand or Toyota Motors. If > you mean Toyota motors, the majority are made in Japan. Others like the > Corolla are assembled in Canada of mostly Japanese materials and the > balance, primarily Camrys, Siennas and Tundra's are assembled in the US > of, as Toyota now says in it ads, of 'world sourced parts.' Toyota > stopped advertising made in America last October after Honda, who actually > makes the Accord in the US of mostly US part and has a '1' as the first > number of the VIN, complained to the FTC about Toyotas false claim they > made vehicles in the US, rather than merely assembling them here. The > only vehicles with a 'Toyota' brand on the grill and a '1' as the first > number of the VIN, are those made in the GM/Toyota plant in California > where the UAW contract requires at least 75% US content. The NA parts > label aside, the Camry for example has a '4' as the first number of the > VIN which indicates a US total content of less than 70%, but more than > 40%. The Tundra on the other hand has a '5' as the first number of the > VIN indicating a US content of less than 40%. All hybrid and Lexus' > models are imported Mike, I wish you would provide some back up for this explanation of what the "1" means in the VIN. I have read everything I can find on the government websites, and nowhere can I find it claimed than the first digit of the VIN number has anything to do with the domestic content of the vehicle. As far as I can tell it merely identifies the location of the assembly plant and as nothing to do with where the parts come from. If you have some documention that says different, I sure wish you would give us a reference. US assembled Toyotas use 1, 4, and 5 in the first position. 1 = NUMMI (California), 4 = TTMK (Kentucky), 5 = TMMI & TMMCA (Indiana and California). I am not sure what they are using for the new Tundra plant in Texas. Ed |