From: Ed White on 12 Feb 2007 11:04 On Feb 11, 5:48 pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehu...(a)mailcity.com> wrote: > The Texas Tundra will be a 5. Try searching the US Commerce Department > site. Assignment of 1, 4, or 5 has to do with total US content from R & D > to assembly, not just parts and absolutely nothing to do with the areas of > the country.. OK Mike, I wasted 45 minutes searching the Dept. of Commerce web site and did not find a single reference that relates VINs to domestic contnet. Please post a link to this information. It is my belief it does not exist and that you are confused and combining unrelated information to come up with a relationship that does not now and has never existed. But I am willing to be proven wrong. Please don't repeat the erroneous information. Give up some proof! And, while your Mustang GT might have a high US content, the V-6 Automatic models only have 65% domestic contnetn, but still get a 1 in the first digit of the VIN - explain that one (V-6 Automatics European built engines and transmissions). Ed
From: C. E. White on 12 Feb 2007 15:00 "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:DvGdnW7VHdnZAFLYUSdV9g(a)ptd.net... > The Texas Tundra will be a 5. Try searching the US Commerce Department > site. Assignment of 1, 4, or 5 has to do with total US content from R & D > to assembly, not just parts and absolutely nothing to do with the areas > of the country.. > > If it were area why is it the Lincoln LT truck and the F150, made in the > same Michigan plant, do not both have a 1? Why do the Titans made in > Tennessee have a 1? Why do the Accords made in Ohio have a 1? Why does > the Tundra have a 5, assembled in Indiana and the Camry a 4 assembled in > Kentucky when they are all neighboring states, yet all of the Fords made > in Kentucky and Ohio have a 1? Miek, I spent another 45 minutes searching FTC, DOT, and NHTSA web sites, and there is no evidence that WMI (World Manufacturer Indentifiers - i.e., the first three digits of the VIN) have any relationship whatsover to the percentage of domestic contnent. The first digit does indicate the country of assembly, but not where he parts actually came from. As far as I am concerned, unless you can prevent compelling evidence to the contraty, your assertion that the firist digit of the VIN is related to domestic content is a milsleading statement. I did come across the following information: "Domestic Content Label All Ford vehicles produced on or after October 1, 1995 bear a Domestic Content Label affixed to the fuel economy label, price sticker or other readily visible label This label communicates: - Vehicle line average percentage (value- based) of domestic content (U.S. and Canadian) - The names of at least two of the countries (if any) providing 15 percent or more (by value) of all components - City and country of final assembly - The country of origin of the engine and transmission/transaxle IS THIS LABLE STILL REQUIRED? I looked at the window sticker for my 2006 Frontier and 2007 Fusion and neither includes this information. Domestic Content by Brand (2005 - sales weighted) BMW 10% Chrysler (domestic brands) 78% Ford (domestic brands) 78% GM (domestic brands) 74% Honda/Acura 59% Hyundai/Kia 3% Isuzu 79% Mitsubishi 36% Nissan/Infiniti 46% Subaru 26% Toyota/Lexus 47% Volkswagen/Audi 4% Cars.com's American Made Index rates vehicles put together and purchased in the U.S. Factors include where the cars' parts are made, where the cars are assembled and how many are sold in the U.S.. Eligible models must have a domestic-parts-content rating of 75 percent or more, the minimum federal standard for a car to be labeled domestic. The American Made Index Make/Model - U.S. Assembly Location(s) 1. Ford F-Series* - Dearborn, Mich.; Kansas City, Mo.; Louisville, Ky.; Norfolk, Va. 2. Chevrolet Silverado - Ford Wayne, Ind.; Pontiac, Mich. 3. Toyota Camry**; Camry Solara - Georgetown, Ky. 4. Ford E-Series - Lorain, Ohio 5. Chevrolet Cobalt - Lordstown, Ohio 6. Ford Explorer; Explorer Sport Trac - Louisville, Ky.; St. Louis, Mo. 7. Chevrolet Malibu/Malibu Maxx - Kansas City, Kan. 8. Ford Escape** - Kansas City, Mo. 9. Toyota Sienna - Princeton, Ind. 10. Chevrolet TrailBlazer*** - Moraine, Ohio *Excludes Ford F-650, F-750 **Excludes hybrid ***Excludes discontinued TrailBlazer EXT
From: Ed White on 15 Feb 2007 19:24 Mike - PING - any proof on the VIN indicating domestic content?
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 15 Feb 2007 21:59 On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:24:08 -0800, Ed White wrote: > Mike - PING - any proof on the VIN indicating domestic content? I had heard this when I was working at a Toyota dealer. I think you can find this in the NADA book. Check http://www.nadaguides.com
From: C. E. White on 16 Feb 2007 00:52
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)AE86.gts> wrote in message news:B69Bh.5734$8b1.5239(a)trndny03... > On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:24:08 -0800, Ed White wrote: > >> Mike - PING - any proof on the VIN indicating domestic content? > > > I had heard this when I was working at a Toyota dealer. > > I think you can find this in the NADA book. Check > > http://www.nadaguides.com I found nothing on that site that claims the VIN number indicated % of domestic contnet. The WMI (first three digits) does indicate that the vehcile was assembled in one of a number possible plants in a particualrly country but nothing more. Ed |