From: Mike Hunter on 27 Feb 2010 18:50 Buick had the most convenient starter, way back in the fifties. All I had to do was turn on the key and step on the gas and the car started. "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote in message news:K62dnS4FQoTW4BTWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d(a)bright.net... > > > "Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B" wrote: >> >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:05:37 -0600, jim wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > jim beam wrote: >> > >> > >> >> so read the freakin' owners manual! >> > >> > How is that going to help someone with an out of control vehicle? >> >> We're kind of assuming you familiarize yourself with a vehicle loaded >> with >> technology that may be unfamiliar BEFORE you find yourself hurtling >> through space at 125 MPH. How had she been turning the car off before >> that? >> >> > >> > >> >> besides, unless this is absolutely the first time this person has ever >> >> sat behind the wheel of this vehicle, and hasn't yet turned it off, >> >> they >> >> will have LEARNED that the button needs to be pressed for THREE >> >> SECONDS >> >> to switch off the vehicle. duh. >> > >> > that may well be easy to do when you are stopped in your driveway, but >> > if >> > you are careening down the highway at an unreasonably fast speed your >> > perception of how long 3 seconds is may be a tad altered. >> > >> > you are obviously a loon if you are trying to defend this as good >> > design. >> >> A lot of companies have adopted it. I think Honda was one of the first >> with the S2000. > > I think it was a '46 chevy coupe that was the first car I saw where you > pushed a button on the dash to start the car. It was considered cutting > edge technology. A big step forward from stepping on a pedal on the > floor.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Feb 2010 19:41 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:48:17 -0800, Neo wrote: >> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with >> a clue on this one. >> >> BTW< the car was a Lexus. > > driver = Mrs. Rhonda Smith of Servierville, Tenn Car = 2007 Lexus ES350 > Event date = October 2006 > Event location = I-40, Tennessee > Event Car Mileage: 3000 miles > Current Car Mileage: 30000 miles > > Event description = The driver testified before congress that her car > accelerates to 100mph. as she attempted to slow it down using her brakes, > emergency brakes, by shifting the car into neutral, and by shifting the > car into reverse. After > 6 miles the car stops[1]. > > Ms. Smith trade in her 2007 Lexus ES350 after 3000 miles. It was purchased > by another family whom has since driven > it another 27000 miles without incident until the NHTSA has purchased it > for > testing at its Vehicle Research and Test Center in East Liberty, Ohio. It > has > been reported that the NHTSA > purchased the car for about > $42,500 for testing [2]. The > blue book value of the car in good > condition is $23,185. 3,000 miles and she never bothered to read the Owner's Manual or familiarize herself with the controls. I hope THIS is what she's driving now... http://www.tennesseelimo.com/
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Feb 2010 19:43 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:15:05 -0600, jim wrote: >> A lot of companies have adopted it. I think Honda was one of the first >> with the S2000. > > I think it was a '46 chevy coupe that was the first car I saw where you > pushed a button on the dash to start the car. It was considered cutting > edge technology. A big step forward from stepping on a pedal on the floor. I was talking in terms of modern, electrically controlled ignition rather than have a button on the dash in place of a soleniod. But you knew that.
From: anniejrs on 28 Feb 2010 10:38 On Feb 23, 5:35 pm, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began accelerating > uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no effect, I stepped > on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the emergency brake and it > had no effect, I even tried to put the car into reverse and I couldn't." > > Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with a > clue on this one. > > BTW< the car was a Lexus. She probably didn't hit the brakes in conjunction with putting it in neutral. Or my best guess; it's a ploy that will lead up to a lawsuit.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 28 Feb 2010 12:54
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:38:33 -0800, anniejrs(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Feb 23, 5:35 pm, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began >> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no >> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the >> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car into >> reverse and I couldn't." >> >> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with >> a clue on this one. >> >> BTW< the car was a Lexus. > > She probably didn't hit the brakes in conjunction with putting it in > neutral. Or my best guess; it's a ploy that will lead up to a lawsuit. That seems about on the money. Er, no pun intended... |