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From: charlesgrozny on 24 Feb 2010 18:19 I like Michael Shamus Kelso better. Charles Grozny
From: charlesgrozny on 24 Feb 2010 18:24 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:hm3vbh$qkn$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:05:27 -0600, charlesgrozny wrote: > >> >> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:hm3oa5$qkr$4(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:01:03 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:35:58 -0500, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>>> >>>>>A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began >>>>>accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no >>>>>effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the >>>>>emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car into >>>>>reverse and I couldn't." >>>>> >>>>>Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with >>>>>with a clue on this one. >>>>> >>>>>BTW< the car was a Lexus. >>>> >>>> >>>> And do you know for a fact that the transmission is mechanically >>>> shifted or if it's all electronically controlled? If it is >>>> electronically controlled, do you KNOW that when that model Toyota is >>>> being driven that it can be shifted into neutral? >>> >>> Nope. I don't. What about the OFF button? So, do YOU know if it can or >>> can't? Add something instead of blather for once. You seems to be adept >>> at ruining transmissions. >>> >>> If anyone wants to lend me their Lexus (Raaaayyyyy?) I will GLADLY find >>> out what happens at 125 MPH. >>> >>> >> I've ruined only ONE transmission on a Toyota. That was a 1501 K40. >> Supposedly all that needed to be fixed was a 50 cent cotter pin or >> something, but there was only one Toyota dealer in 50 miles, and I didn't >> trust him. He was the goofus that tried to sell me a ring job at 48,000 >> miles with NO proof. And part of that cotter pin breaking is my fault. >> Driving home 17 miles from Mississippi 3 times fully overloaded with >> leftover expired Mississippi license plates for my license plate >> collection. (Took me 3 trips to move all 8000+ plates) I drove home on >> the back roads, but I did drive in 4th gear most of the way and 4th gear >> is what failed. In those days 1 box of 50 Mississippi plates weighed 23 >> lbs, so you figure I was running 1300 lbs of plates plus 200 lbs of me in >> a car with a 700 lb load limit with each load. (I didn't find out they >> weighed 23 lbs/box until later.) Ahh to be young and stupid again. . . >> . >> >> Charles Grozny > > AHA! You're NOT fromIllinois, you're from Hinsdale, NH! > > I used to pass this on the way to my favorite tobacco store... > > http://img.groundspeak.com/waymarking/d95d59c0-6889-4fe8-8c5a-d7629dd132d9.JPG > Shoot, 86, I've never even been to New England. The furthest east I' ve ever been is Da City, and that was on a field trip in my college days. I used to live in Arkansas from 1980 to 1991, though and my one grandmother was from Mississippi, so I don't know which side to cheer for when I watch Gone With The Wind. . . . There is a Hindsdale IL just south of here but I've never seen anything like that there. Charles Grozny
From: Ashton Crusher on 27 Feb 2010 01:15 On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC), Hachiroku <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:01:03 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:35:58 -0500, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >>>A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began >>>accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no >>>effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the >>>emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car into >>>reverse and I couldn't." >>> >>>Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with >>>a clue on this one. >>> >>>BTW< the car was a Lexus. >> >> >> And do you know for a fact that the transmission is mechanically shifted >> or if it's all electronically controlled? If it is electronically >> controlled, do you KNOW that when that model Toyota is being driven that >> it can be shifted into neutral? > >Nope. I don't. And yet you attack the woman who made the statement. Tells plenty about you. >What about the OFF button? What about it? As many have already said, it seems that you have to hold it for 3 seconds. She probably didn't hold it that long. Most likely it's the ONLY on/off button on anything she owns that has to be held for 3 seconds to turn off. >So, do YOU know if it can or can't? Add something instead of blather for >once. You seems to be adept at ruining transmissions. > Really? Shows your reading comprehension problem. The ONLY transmission that has not been up to the task of MY *normal* driving is the junk in the Toyota Tercel. Whereas my domestics last forever it seems, the Toyota only lasted a month. Since they work so well for you I'll assume you drive like you write, sloppily, slow, and all over the place, whereas I'm tight, fast, and on the mark.
From: jim beam on 27 Feb 2010 09:59 On 02/26/2010 10:15 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote: > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC), Hachiroku<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> > wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:01:03 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:35:58 -0500, Hachiroku<Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>> >>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began >>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no >>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the >>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car into >>>> reverse and I couldn't." >>>> >>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with >>>> a clue on this one. >>>> >>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus. >>> >>> >>> And do you know for a fact that the transmission is mechanically shifted >>> or if it's all electronically controlled? If it is electronically >>> controlled, do you KNOW that when that model Toyota is being driven that >>> it can be shifted into neutral? >> >> Nope. I don't. > > > And yet you attack the woman who made the statement. Tells plenty > about you. ad hominem? you can't address the facts so you attempt to discredit the person pointing them out to you? [rhetorical] > > > > >> What about the OFF button? > > What about it? As many have already said, it seems that you have to > hold it for 3 seconds. She probably didn't hold it that long. Most > likely it's the ONLY on/off button on anything she owns that has to be > held for 3 seconds to turn off. so read the freakin' owners manual! besides, unless this is absolutely the first time this person has ever sat behind the wheel of this vehicle, and hasn't yet turned it off, they will have LEARNED that the button needs to be pressed for THREE SECONDS to switch off the vehicle. duh. > > >> So, do YOU know if it can or can't? Add something instead of blather for >> once. You seems to be adept at ruining transmissions. >> > > Really? Shows your reading comprehension problem. The ONLY > transmission that has not been up to the task of MY *normal* driving > is the junk in the Toyota Tercel. Whereas my domestics last forever > it seems, "forever" and "it seems"? those are well known legal and scientific terms that tell us precisely NOTHING. > the Toyota only lasted a month. right, we believe you. the millions of tercel drivers out there that have hundreds of thousands of miles on their cars - they believe you too. > Since they work so well > for you I'll assume you drive like you write, sloppily, slow, and all > over the place, whereas I'm tight, fast, and on the mark. except that you're not. see above. -- nomina rutrum rutrum
From: jim on 27 Feb 2010 11:05
jim beam wrote: > > so read the freakin' owners manual! How is that going to help someone with an out of control vehicle? > > besides, unless this is absolutely the first time this person has ever > sat behind the wheel of this vehicle, and hasn't yet turned it off, they > will have LEARNED that the button needs to be pressed for THREE SECONDS > to switch off the vehicle. duh. that may well be easy to do when you are stopped in your driveway, but if you are careening down the highway at an unreasonably fast speed your perception of how long 3 seconds is may be a tad altered. you are obviously a loon if you are trying to defend this as good design. |