Air filters inside the car?
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From: in2dadark on 17 Mar 2010 18:39 On Mar 16, 2:58 pm, Scott in Florida <Mov...(a)Outa.here> wrote: > On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:19:56 -0700, jim beam <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >On 03/14/2010 01:47 PM, Devil's_Advocate wrote: > >> "C. E. White"<cewhi...(a)mindspring.com> wrote : > > >>> "Devil's_Advocate"<Devils_Advocate(a)devils_.xyx> wrote in message > >>>news:Xns9D3AEC16FE44EDevilsAdvocatedevils(a)216.196.97.142... > >>>> I was looking online at one of the newer Corollas and noticed an air > >>>> cleaner > >>>> listed as a feature on one. Is that inside the car, for the passengers? > > >>>> Is it anything serious, or just a dust filter? > > >>> Cabin air filters are an increasingly more popular item in cars. Most > >>> Toyotas have them now. I am not sure what you mean by "serious." They > >>> claim to remove pollen and other particultes. > > >> That's what I meant by "serious". A lot of the stuff that makes me sick > >> while I drive, is gases, not just particles. The HM200 that I adapted for > >> the car, has 7 lbs of charcoal and other gas adsorbing stuff in it. It > >> helps about 50%, being there's no good way to really seal the car up > >> better. ( that I know of ) > > >> I've not seen much of an > >>> advantage to them, but I don't have any significant alleries. I know > >>> they do something becasue after a year they are full of trapped "stuff." > >>> However, it seems to me so much stuff comes in on your feet, or through > >>> open windows, they are never going to be more than partially effective. > > >> LOL We dont ever drive with the windows open, for the very reason that we > >> get very sick, very fast, from exhaust emissions. > > >wear a gas mask. seriously. military grade handles almost all common > >nasties, and a few more besides. > > They do a damned good job on tear gas. Navy Boot used to make you wear one, > then take it off. > > Life was MUCH better with it on... > > -- > > Scott in Florida- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - We had to do it too. I was the last one out of the gas chamber. It was fun watching everyone puke.. Because I didn't panic and waited, they let me out faster and I just drooled a LOT (kinda like JSB does all the time) ..
From: Jeff Strickland on 17 Mar 2010 19:49 "Devil's_Advocate" <Devils_Advocate(a)devils_.xyx> wrote in message news:Xns9D3E7E9165DEADevilsAdvocatedevils(a)216.196.97.142... > "homepc" <wiebe008(a)gmail.com> wrote : > >> One thing about recirculation air in your new Corolla. I don't know if >> yours works the same, but in my 2007 model the air recirculation button >> will only remain depressed if the air is set for floor and or dash board >> vents. If the air is set for defrosting/defogging windshields, the >> recirculation button will immediately pop up and refuse to stay locked >> down. > > I noticed that, and was not pleasantly surprised by it. In the 93, it's > mechanical and we can just keep it shut. Who was the genius engineer who > deemed that they knew better than the CUSTOMER, what the customer should > have? > > The first thing I noticed was that the LED had to be lit, for it to be > closed, which seemed odd. > > Is there a way we can get it hard wired to stay closed? ( may be as simple > as pulling the power wire from it? ) > > I don't know whay on earth anybody would want Recirc all of the time, but I agree completely that the vehicle operator should be making the choice to Recirc no matter where he has selected the air to blow out of. For that matter, the driver should select whether or not the AC is on, or not -- my F150 insists on turning the AC on for any setting other than Panel or Floor. If I mix Panel and Floor, the AC is on. If I want fresh air but not blowing directly on me, I might choose Defrost, but this forces the AC on even if I don't want it. As the driver, I know that the AC makes Defrost work better, but just because I select the air to blow on the windshield does not mean I need to defrost the glass. Just because I make a selection that isn't Panel does not mean I want the AC to be on. Recirculate is a function that the driver should have full control over in any of the various settings of the climate control system. AC is also a function that the driver should select, not the car. While I would never select Recirculate as the default mode, I suppose some would make that selection, and that's why the engineers should not be making it. Sorry, rant over.
From: Jeff Strickland on 17 Mar 2010 19:57 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hnrppm$9v8$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Devil's_Advocate" <Devils_Advocate(a)devils_.xyx> wrote in message > news:Xns9D3E7E9165DEADevilsAdvocatedevils(a)216.196.97.142... >> "homepc" <wiebe008(a)gmail.com> wrote : >> >>> One thing about recirculation air in your new Corolla. I don't know if >>> yours works the same, but in my 2007 model the air recirculation button >>> will only remain depressed if the air is set for floor and or dash board >>> vents. If the air is set for defrosting/defogging windshields, the >>> recirculation button will immediately pop up and refuse to stay locked >>> down. >> >> I noticed that, and was not pleasantly surprised by it. In the 93, it's >> mechanical and we can just keep it shut. Who was the genius engineer who >> deemed that they knew better than the CUSTOMER, what the customer should >> have? >> >> The first thing I noticed was that the LED had to be lit, for it to be >> closed, which seemed odd. >> >> Is there a way we can get it hard wired to stay closed? ( may be as >> simple >> as pulling the power wire from it? ) >> >> > > I don't know whay on earth anybody would want Recirc all of the time, but > I agree completely that the vehicle operator should be making the choice > to Recirc no matter where he has selected the air to blow out of. For that > matter, the driver should select whether or not the AC is on, or not -- my > F150 insists on turning the AC on for any setting other than Panel or > Floor. If I mix Panel and Floor, the AC is on. If I want fresh air but not > blowing directly on me, I might choose Defrost, but this forces the AC on > even if I don't want it. As the driver, I know that the AC makes Defrost > work better, but just because I select the air to blow on the windshield > does not mean I need to defrost the glass. Just because I make a selection > that isn't Panel does not mean I want the AC to be on. > > Recirculate is a function that the driver should have full control over in > any of the various settings of the climate control system. AC is also a > function that the driver should select, not the car. While I would never > select Recirculate as the default mode, I suppose some would make that > selection, and that's why the engineers should not be making it. > > Sorry, rant over. > > > Okay, the rant isn't over yet ... If the pesky engineers are going to make a decision that I'm too stupid to do by myself, it's that the climate control fan should never ever be allowed to be switched OFF. Air should always be moving within the passenger cabin, whether it's recirculated or fresh air, the driver should choose. I choose fresh, but your mileage may vary. I like one feature of my F150, the fan has four speeds, and no OFF. Now if I could just pick the other stuff .... Actually, the climate control system as a whole has an OFF setting that I never use, but the fan speed control has 4 settings, none of them are OFF. Now the rant is over.
From: Jeff Strickland on 17 Mar 2010 21:39 "Scott in Florida" <MoveOn(a)Outa.here> wrote in message news:pp03q59mfv5bkbshvtsvq0i89nsb9s43om(a)4ax.com... >> > > Does it combat my home made bean soup???? > > > -- Only if you're driving ahead of him and he has Recirc ON. If it combats your navy bean soup while he's ahead of you, you should put the windows down, and definitely switch away from Recirc in your own car. .
From: Jeff Strickland on 17 Mar 2010 22:12
"Scott in Florida" <MoveOn(a)Outa.here> wrote in message news:aj13q5tkppid7qjhiou2io74rkulceg1q4(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:39:05 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" > <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> >>"Scott in Florida" <MoveOn(a)Outa.here> wrote in message >>news:pp03q59mfv5bkbshvtsvq0i89nsb9s43om(a)4ax.com... >>>> >>> >>> Does it combat my home made bean soup???? >>> >>> >>> -- >> >>Only if you're driving ahead of him and he has Recirc ON. >> >>If it combats your navy bean soup while he's ahead of you, you should put >>the windows down, and definitely switch away from Recirc in your own car. >>. >> >> >> >> > > Does that mean I'm a beaner????? > > Gross polluter. |