What I hate about Big Oil
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From: Mike Hunter on 17 Jun 2010 19:46 Ah yes the EPA and the government will save us. When the EPA came into being to save us from the polluters and my friend said, but who will save us from the EPA. At the time most of what we bought was made in America, a full size car cost $3,000, gas was 25 cent a gallon, the minimum wage was 50 cents an hour and the 1971 car, which I still own, gets 24 miles per gallon and most of our crude came from Texas and Oklahoma at around $17 a barrel. Fifty year later most to our major manufacturing is now offshore, a mid-size car cost $30,000, gas is $2.85 a gallon, the minimum wage is $7.20 and my 2010 full size car gets 28 miles per gallon that is 10% Ethanol, that is highly corrosive and has 30% less power and is more expensive than gasoline and most of our crude is imported from those that hate us, at around $75 a barrel. I pay $0.065 per KWH to an electric utility that uses mostly coal an Nuclear power. Solar power costs at $0.09 to $0.12 per KWH depending on how far one is from the array and wind power costs $.29 per KWH no matter how far you are from the wind farm. What will our healthcare costs be like in fifty years, now that the government is going to save us from those evil insurance companies, from whom EVERYONE must now buy hearth insurance, or go to jail? LOL "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoproblem(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:19197158-def6-4e78-8d38-37770b1c9605(a)k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 15, 5:30 pm, "Tyrone" <T...(a)its.invalid> wrote: >> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of >> Tantra-Hammock"<nolionnoprob...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:b0527ee7-35de-48fa-ae18-73c637f63c2b(a)w31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...> >> What IhateaboutBigOilis their incessant campaign to appear >> > "environmentally friendly." Funny, the drivers of pollution and the >> > deniers of evolution toward smarter forms of transportation, must >> > appear to do the opposite. >> >> ======= >> Thebigoilcompanies ARE very careful to do as little damage as possible to >> the environment. They supply the energy that is absolutely necessary to >> make society function. They are all working on alternative forms of >> energy >> that is more environmentally friendly, but until some future time, those >> forms of energy are not sufficient to replace the old-fashioned, >> polluting >> kind of energy that you use in your car and provides the fuel to produce >> the >> electricity you use to light your home, play your TV, etc. >> >> The alternative would be to go back to the horse and buggy days. >> >> Eventually something needs to be done, but without a national policy to >> force it, things will move at a snail's pace. > > You will never have a national policy of CONSERVATION because whoever > proposes that will be out of office. If Obama had to fight over > universal healthcare tooth and nail, winning support for higher gas > taxes would lead to riots on the streets or worse. > > All it takes is: > > 1- HIGHER GAS TAXES, > > 2- TAME TRAFFIC to make roads safe for other vehicles, > > 3- ALLOW BICYLES TO TAKE THE LANE, > > 4- IMPROVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND FUND ALTERNATIVE VEHICLES with > the money collected --not for wars! > > By the way, we don't need the buggy carts. > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > COMING OUT OF THE MONEY JUNGLE: > > http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1 >
From: VFW on 17 Jun 2010 22:37 In article <db81f75a-1898-432d-9e84-b1a7190cce33(a)j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoproblem(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 5:20 pm, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: > > Can we assume you do not live in the snow belt or more than 30 miles from > > the nearest town, as do 40% of Americans? Perhaps we can power many > > things with windmills but MANY OF them. You live in a dream world if you > > think we will not need crude oil for a least the next 75 years or more at a > > GREATER amount than we need today. The REAL world run on oil and will for > > a long long time. ;) > > Forget about the world. Assume personal responsibility and ride a > bike, become vegetarian or something, won't you? and don't reproduce, Population is the ultimate pollution. -- Money! What a concept.
From: Phlip on 17 Jun 2010 23:24 On Jun 17, 7:37 pm, VFW <george...(a)toast.net> wrote: > and don't reproduce, Population is the ultimate pollution. Humanity is not the problem. The more people there are, the stupider they all behave. _That's_ the problem!
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 18 Jun 2010 09:25 On Jun 17, 5:18 pm, Steve <stevencan...(a)yahooooo.com> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:29:20 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the > TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock" > > > > <nolionnoprob...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >On Jun 17, 10:52 am, Steve <stevencan...(a)yahooooo.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:25:03 -0500, "5511 Dead, 644 since 1/20/09" > > >> <d...(a)dead.com> wrote: > >> > For one thing, the economic climate > >> >doesn't favor small businessmen. > > >> <LOL> Oh bullshit.... it may not favor your ignorant self, > >> Jamieson, but this is the kind of economy where small business can > >> thrive... of course you'll need some capital unless you're already > >> established.. and I guess that excludes all the lefterloon losers > >> that pissed away all their opportunities with irresponsibility... > > >Cleaning trash could be big business. > > >Good entrepreneurs don't allow themselves to be slowed down. > > ...and losers are always losers.... That's true. The whole system works against them. I could be a WINNER without money, could you believe it? But then I got to room for my bikes on the roads. The system is designed that way.
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 18 Jun 2010 09:27
On Jun 17, 7:46 pm, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: > Ah yes the EPA and the government will save us. When the EPA came into > being to save us from the polluters and my friend said, but who will save us > from the EPA. > > At the time most of what we bought was made in America, a full size car cost > $3,000, gas was 25 cent a gallon, the minimum wage was 50 cents an hour and > the 1971 car, which I still own, gets 24 miles per gallon and most of our > crude came from Texas and Oklahoma at around $17 a barrel. > > Fifty year later most to our major manufacturing is now offshore, a mid-size > car cost $30,000, gas is $2.85 a gallon, the minimum wage is $7.20 and my > 2010 full size car gets 28 miles per gallon that is 10% Ethanol, that is > highly corrosive and has 30% less power and is more expensive than gasoline > and most of our crude is imported from those that hate us, at around $75 a > barrel. > > I pay $0.065 per KWH to an electric utility that uses mostly coal an Nuclear > power. Solar power costs at $0.09 to $0.12 per KWH depending on how far > one is from the array and wind power costs $.29 per KWH no matter how far > you are from the wind farm. > > What will our healthcare costs be like in fifty years, now that the > government is going to save us from those evil insurance companies, from > whom EVERYONE must now buy hearth insurance, or go to jail? LOL > I still say we should bring Cuban doctors in this era of Globalization. |