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From: Al Falfa on 3 Feb 2010 21:41 "ransley" <Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d08d664f-de4d-44ec-a66f-79f4f0d3a9a3(a)u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > > More likely he was at fault and called 911 after the accident and the > car was stopped. I dont think anybody would be able to get their > phone, dial, send, wait, then talk, or even think of that while a > crash was in view. I would do Neutral or R or P and emergency brake, > then ignition, then Call 911. These guys do have training on cars. A passenger called 911 as the car raced through traffic. Everyone in the car died.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 3 Feb 2010 22:42 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:29:31 -0500, David Z wrote: >>> That's another unanswered question I have. I can understand that the >>> patrol officer was unaware that you need to hold the start button down >>> for >>> at least 3 seconds to shut the engine off. But how could he, or any of >>> the other 3 (?) people in the car, not know how to shift the car into >>> neutral? >> >> Supposedly he had moved the shift lever to the Sport Shift position... > > Are you saying that you can't easily shift from drive to neutral in "the > Sport Shift position?" It goes through a gate to get to the sport mode. You access the gate from the D position. You'd have to go back to D and then to N. I think it should take less than, oh, 30 seconds or so... > >> ...where average or below average drivers can fancy themselves as >> Michael Schumacher at the Nurburgring. He had time to dial 911, but not >> to check the gearshift lever. > > I heard the 911 call a few times. He had plenty of time. At least 30 > seconds or more. I would need no more than 1 or 2 seconds to shift from > drive to neutral. Are You Smarter Than A CHiP? New game show!!! I guess I shouldn't poke fun, but JEEZE!!!! I had an accelerator lock up on me wide open once. I can't remember what car it was, but the aircraft cable throttle cable was rusty. All I really remember is that I found neutral FAST!!!!!!!!!!!
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 3 Feb 2010 22:43 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:23:11 -0800, ransley wrote: >> > Also, you snipped and ignored my main question -- why isn't the ES350 >> > included in the recall since it was an ES350 that initially publicized >> > this problem? >> >> It was the floor mats in that case. Not the Japan sourced gas pedal. > > More likely he was at fault and called 911 after the accident and the car > was stopped. He was calling 911 and said, "My throttle is stuck!" and then asked them to clear an intersection for him. They didn't. He did. Taking out a truck with him.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 3 Feb 2010 22:52 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:57:11 -0500, David Z wrote: > "Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ob1km5tg2ua5pg1ql7tialac583t0u7bbn(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:37:47 -0500, "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >> >>>That's another unanswered question I have. I can understand that the >>>patrol >>>officer was unaware that you need to hold the start button down for at >>>least >>>3 seconds to shut the engine off. But how could he, or any of the other >>>3 (?) people in the car, not know how to shift the car into neutral? >>> >> I think Tegger answered that question. Something about different shift >> modes on the shifter. More unnecessary complication. > > What does that mean? > > Is he saying that, in some "shift mode," the ES doesn't allow you to shift > from Drive to Neutral? at high speed? What "shift mode" would that be? Sport mode accessed through a 'gate'. Have to move back to drive and then to neutral.
From: Mike Hunter on 4 Feb 2010 11:09
According to todays Tribune Newspapers, the Chairman of the House Oversight Committee is stating Toyota will be asked about runaways problems with the Tacoma truck. The NHTSA has received over 100 complaints about sudden uncontrolled accelerations problem on the Tacoma, their truck that does NOT use the same pedal assembly as the other recalled Toyotas. The article also refers to Japans Transport Ministry releasing that their have been numerous complaints about "braking problems" with NEW generation Prius. Toyota admits they are addressing braking problems in previous Prius models but they are "unaware" of problems in the NEW generation Prius. The ever growing issue over sudden uncontrolled acceleration in most every type of Toyota vehicle is having a sensitizing effect on consumers around the world and Toyotas confusing responses are not helping the situation. Curious ah? "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:UYednUMxtJMRYvTWnZ2dnUVZ_g1i4p2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> Also, you snipped and ignored my main question -- why isn't the ES350 >>>> included in the recall since it was an ES350 that initially publicized >>>> this problem? >>> it had a different cause of sticking accelerator: The rug. IT was >>> covered by a different recall. >> >> That's where I get real skeptical. Are we supposed to believe that these >> problems are unrelated? It's possible, but it stretches credulity. > > It's quite possible. We'll see. |