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From: hls on 3 Feb 2010 17:26 "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:7sub38Fs5pU1(a)mid.individual.net... > I'm not confident that Toyota has "found the problem" and "designed the > fix" in a couple of days. The pressure they are under is more conducive > to getting it "right away" rather than getting it right. ******** We will see. I heard an interview with a dealership owner and Avalon driver today and he was asked point blank if he were certain this will be a fix. What else could he say but "yes". He had never had an issue with his Avalon. Neither have I . I am going to assume that this WILL be a fix, but I will not forget how to shift to neutral, brake, and punch the button.
From: David Z on 3 Feb 2010 17:37 "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message news:KJWdnXp1KKCrZfTWnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:7sub38Fs5pU1(a)mid.individual.net... > >> I'm not confident that Toyota has "found the problem" and "designed the >> fix" in a couple of days. The pressure they are under is more conducive >> to getting it "right away" rather than getting it right. > > > ******** > We will see. I heard an interview with a dealership owner and Avalon > driver today > and he was asked point blank if he were certain this will be a fix. What > else could > he say but "yes". He had never had an issue with his Avalon. > > Neither have I . > > I am going to assume that this WILL be a fix, but I will not forget how to > shift to > neutral, brake, and punch the button. That's another unanswered question I have. I can understand that the patrol officer was unaware that you need to hold the start button down for at least 3 seconds to shut the engine off. But how could he, or any of the other 3 (?) people in the car, not know how to shift the car into neutral? Also, you snipped and ignored my main question -- why isn't the ES350 included in the recall since it was an ES350 that initially publicized this problem?
From: dr_jeff on 3 Feb 2010 17:46 David Z wrote: > "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message > news:KJWdnXp1KKCrZfTWnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >> news:7sub38Fs5pU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >>> I'm not confident that Toyota has "found the problem" and "designed the >>> fix" in a couple of days. The pressure they are under is more conducive >>> to getting it "right away" rather than getting it right. >> >> ******** >> We will see. I heard an interview with a dealership owner and Avalon >> driver today >> and he was asked point blank if he were certain this will be a fix. What >> else could >> he say but "yes". He had never had an issue with his Avalon. >> >> Neither have I . >> >> I am going to assume that this WILL be a fix, but I will not forget how to >> shift to >> neutral, brake, and punch the button. > > That's another unanswered question I have. I can understand that the patrol > officer was unaware that you need to hold the start button down for at least > 3 seconds to shut the engine off. But how could he, or any of the other 3 > (?) people in the car, not know how to shift the car into neutral? > > Also, you snipped and ignored my main question -- why isn't the ES350 > included in the recall since it was an ES350 that initially publicized this > problem? it had a different cause of sticking accelerator: The rug. IT was covered by a different recall.
From: David Z on 3 Feb 2010 17:57 "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:pPidnSqnZ-smYfTWnZ2dnUVZ_gJi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > David Z wrote: >> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message >> news:KJWdnXp1KKCrZfTWnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >>> news:7sub38Fs5pU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> >>>> I'm not confident that Toyota has "found the problem" and "designed the >>>> fix" in a couple of days. The pressure they are under is more >>>> conducive to getting it "right away" rather than getting it right. >>> >>> ******** >>> We will see. I heard an interview with a dealership owner and Avalon >>> driver today >>> and he was asked point blank if he were certain this will be a fix. >>> What else could >>> he say but "yes". He had never had an issue with his Avalon. >>> >>> Neither have I . >>> >>> I am going to assume that this WILL be a fix, but I will not forget how >>> to shift to >>> neutral, brake, and punch the button. >> >> That's another unanswered question I have. I can understand that the >> patrol officer was unaware that you need to hold the start button down >> for at least 3 seconds to shut the engine off. But how could he, or any >> of the other 3 (?) people in the car, not know how to shift the car into >> neutral? >> >> Also, you snipped and ignored my main question -- why isn't the ES350 >> included in the recall since it was an ES350 that initially publicized >> this problem? > > it had a different cause of sticking accelerator: The rug. IT was covered > by a different recall. That's where I get real skeptical. Are we supposed to believe that these problems are unrelated? It's possible, but it stretches credulity.
From: dr_jeff on 3 Feb 2010 17:58
David Z wrote: > "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message > news:pPidnSqnZ-smYfTWnZ2dnUVZ_gJi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> David Z wrote: >>> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message >>> news:KJWdnXp1KKCrZfTWnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >>>> news:7sub38Fs5pU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> >>>>> I'm not confident that Toyota has "found the problem" and "designed the >>>>> fix" in a couple of days. The pressure they are under is more >>>>> conducive to getting it "right away" rather than getting it right. >>>> ******** >>>> We will see. I heard an interview with a dealership owner and Avalon >>>> driver today >>>> and he was asked point blank if he were certain this will be a fix. >>>> What else could >>>> he say but "yes". He had never had an issue with his Avalon. >>>> >>>> Neither have I . >>>> >>>> I am going to assume that this WILL be a fix, but I will not forget how >>>> to shift to >>>> neutral, brake, and punch the button. >>> That's another unanswered question I have. I can understand that the >>> patrol officer was unaware that you need to hold the start button down >>> for at least 3 seconds to shut the engine off. But how could he, or any >>> of the other 3 (?) people in the car, not know how to shift the car into >>> neutral? >>> >>> Also, you snipped and ignored my main question -- why isn't the ES350 >>> included in the recall since it was an ES350 that initially publicized >>> this problem? >> it had a different cause of sticking accelerator: The rug. IT was covered >> by a different recall. > > That's where I get real skeptical. Are we supposed to believe that these > problems are unrelated? It's possible, but it stretches credulity. It's quite possible. We'll see. |