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From: Mike Hunter on 2 Mar 2010 10:58 The difference is GM problems are old news, Toyota problem are current "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message news:wbydnWRd7PHv0BHWnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:hmhhek$so2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose that >> will damage the engine >> 933,000 toyotas >> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault and >> the toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or other manf. >> have done it, or its driver fault. >> >> its all part of the quality one manf. is no better than the other > > GM has its own cross to bear, for shitty products, shitty service, and > shitty customer relations. > Toyota may fall into the same trap. We'll wait, cautiously, and see. > >
From: Mike Hunter on 2 Mar 2010 11:02 Last night Jay Leno said Sandra Bullock is going to make "Speed III." The first one was a runaway bus, the second a runaway boat and "Speed III," will be a runaway Toyota, full of old ladies. ;) "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message news:CoidnUbHNsK45RHWnZ2dnUVZ_g2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:hmho88$7q5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:27:44 -0600, hls wrote: >> >>> >>> "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:hmhhek$so2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose that >>>> will damage the engine >>>> 933,000 toyotas >>>> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault >>>> and >>>> the toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or other >>>> manf. have done it, or its driver fault. > > The cars, and you know we have two of them, have performed perfectly. > > We will see.
From: Mike Hunter on 2 Mar 2010 11:03 Perhaps, it they can get their cars stopped "Bj�rn Helgason" <gosinn(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1cf51650-2cae-4454-951a-6990a0c52a48(a)t20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... On 2 mar, 02:29, "hls" <h...(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > "Hachiroku ????" <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > > news:hmho88$7q5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > > > > > On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:27:44 -0600, hls wrote: > > >> "Tom" <t...(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > >>news:hmhhek$so2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >>> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose > >>> that > >>> will damage the engine > >>> 933,000 toyotas > >>> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault > >>> and > >>> the toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or other > >>> manf. have done it, or its driver fault. > > >>> its all part of the quality one manf. is no better than the other > > >> GM has its own cross to bear, for shitty products, shitty service, and > >> shitty customer relations. > >> Toyota may fall into the same trap. We'll wait, cautiously, and see. > > > *May* ? > > > They are, and falling hard! In an effort to become #1 in the world, they > > have forgotten a lot of what made their customers loyal in the first > > place. > > Yes, I have talked to the Toyota people lately, and they have given me > the information I needed quickly and without prevarication. > > The cars, and you know we have two of them, have performed perfectly. > > We will see. Looks like Toyota is turning the tide and using the recalls as an opportunity to strengthen their ties with their customers.
From: Mike Hunter on 2 Mar 2010 11:04 Once again our friend Canyck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:hj_in.16525$sx5.8055(a)newsfe16.iad... > On 01/03/2010 4:27 PM, hls wrote: >> >> "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:hmhhek$so2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose >>> that will damage the engine >>> 933,000 toyotas >>> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault >>> and the toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or >>> other manf. have done it, or its driver fault. >>> >>> its all part of the quality one manf. is no better than the other >> >> GM has its own cross to bear, for shitty products, shitty service, and >> shitty customer relations. >> Toyota may fall into the same trap. We'll wait, cautiously, and see. > > But Toyota still has one HUGE advantage. > > They are not sucking money from my pocket via taxation for dysfunctional > corporations and Obama maxism. > > And I don't buy this all of a sudden Congress-GM-NHTSA team is just > discovering anything with Toyota, their own data shows Toyota 3 times > better than GM. Yet they make a big deal? > > Even if Congress-GM-NHTSA team corrupting is right, one had better ask why > NHTSA was so internally corrupt for so long. Right now Obama, congress, > GM are so desperate to set off for a good Volt show, I wouldn't put > anything past them at all. > > -- > Socialists panic at anything, they have nothing else in their minds.
From: Mike Hunter on 2 Mar 2010 11:06 Perhaps but will you feel the same if you can not steer or stop it one of these days? "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message news:6N-dnQmaS9LsyRHWnZ2dnUVZ_qEAAAAA(a)giganews.com... > In article <hmhhek$so2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose that >> will >> damage the engine >> 933,000 toyotas >> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault and >> the >> toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or other manf. >> have >> done it, or its driver fault. >> >> its all part of the quality one manf. is no better than the other > > My major maintenance headache with Toyota and my 2004 Sienna, bought in > Sept 03, is oil changes, oil changes, oil changes. Not even a wiper > blade to change yet. I might have to change out the battery before next > winter when it will be seven years old. I don't know, but these > Toyota's are veeeerrrrrrrrry boring. But I'm deliriously happy about > it. > -- >
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