From: Mike Hunter on
The difference is GM problems are old news, Toyota problem are current


"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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> "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose that
>> will damage the engine
>> 933,000 toyotas
>> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault and
>> the toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or other manf.
>> have done it, or its driver fault.
>>
>> its all part of the quality one manf. is no better than the other
>
> GM has its own cross to bear, for shitty products, shitty service, and
> shitty customer relations.
> Toyota may fall into the same trap. We'll wait, cautiously, and see.
>
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Last night Jay Leno said Sandra Bullock is going to make "Speed III." The
first one was a runaway bus, the second a runaway boat and "Speed III," will
be a runaway Toyota, full of old ladies. ;)


"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:27:44 -0600, hls wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hmhhek$so2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose that
>>>> will damage the engine
>>>> 933,000 toyotas
>>>> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault
>>>> and
>>>> the toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or other
>>>> manf. have done it, or its driver fault.

>
> The cars, and you know we have two of them, have performed perfectly.
>
> We will see.


From: Mike Hunter on
Perhaps, it they can get their cars stopped


"Bj�rn Helgason" <gosinn(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 2 mar, 02:29, "hls" <h...(a)nospam.nix> wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> news:hmho88$7q5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
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>
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> > On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:27:44 -0600, hls wrote:
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> >> "Tom" <t...(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>news:hmhhek$so2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose
> >>> that
> >>> will damage the engine
> >>> 933,000 toyotas
> >>> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault
> >>> and
> >>> the toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or other
> >>> manf. have done it, or its driver fault.
>
> >>> its all part of the quality one manf. is no better than the other
>
> >> GM has its own cross to bear, for shitty products, shitty service, and
> >> shitty customer relations.
> >> Toyota may fall into the same trap. We'll wait, cautiously, and see.
>
> > *May* ?
>
> > They are, and falling hard! In an effort to become #1 in the world, they
> > have forgotten a lot of what made their customers loyal in the first
> > place.
>
> Yes, I have talked to the Toyota people lately, and they have given me
> the information I needed quickly and without prevarication.
>
> The cars, and you know we have two of them, have performed perfectly.
>
> We will see.

Looks like Toyota is turning the tide and using the recalls as an
opportunity to strengthen their ties with their customers.


From: Mike Hunter on
Once again our friend Canyck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL


"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On 01/03/2010 4:27 PM, hls wrote:
>>
>> "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:hmhhek$so2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose
>>> that will damage the engine
>>> 933,000 toyotas
>>> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault
>>> and the toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or
>>> other manf. have done it, or its driver fault.
>>>
>>> its all part of the quality one manf. is no better than the other
>>
>> GM has its own cross to bear, for shitty products, shitty service, and
>> shitty customer relations.
>> Toyota may fall into the same trap. We'll wait, cautiously, and see.
>
> But Toyota still has one HUGE advantage.
>
> They are not sucking money from my pocket via taxation for dysfunctional
> corporations and Obama maxism.
>
> And I don't buy this all of a sudden Congress-GM-NHTSA team is just
> discovering anything with Toyota, their own data shows Toyota 3 times
> better than GM. Yet they make a big deal?
>
> Even if Congress-GM-NHTSA team corrupting is right, one had better ask why
> NHTSA was so internally corrupt for so long. Right now Obama, congress,
> GM are so desperate to set off for a good Volt show, I wouldn't put
> anything past them at all.
>
> --
> Socialists panic at anything, they have nothing else in their minds.


From: Mike Hunter on
Perhaps but will you feel the same if you can not steer or stop it one of
these days?


"dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <hmhhek$so2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Toyota to issue a limited service recall for an oil leak in a hose that
>> will
>> damage the engine
>> 933,000 toyotas
>> wonder how the gm detractors in this group will spin it as gms fault and
>> the
>> toyota group will say its good and proactive by toyota or other manf.
>> have
>> done it, or its driver fault.
>>
>> its all part of the quality one manf. is no better than the other
>
> My major maintenance headache with Toyota and my 2004 Sienna, bought in
> Sept 03, is oil changes, oil changes, oil changes. Not even a wiper
> blade to change yet. I might have to change out the battery before next
> winter when it will be seven years old. I don't know, but these
> Toyota's are veeeerrrrrrrrry boring. But I'm deliriously happy about
> it.
> --
>