From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:09:14 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:hn6r9h$d63$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:56:51 -0500, fruit jar wrote:
>>>
>>>> I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to
>>>> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services
>>>> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with the
>>>> Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and minor
>>>> checks of all for a 4 wheel drive.
>>>>
>>>> Do all dealers try this?
>>>
>>> Reecommendation, from Toyota:
>>>
>>>
>>> Re-torque drive shaft bolt (4WD)
>>> Replace cabin air filter
>>> Replace engine air filter
>>> Replace engine oil and filter 1
>>> Rotate tires
>>> Inspect the following:
>>> Automatic transmission fluid
>>> Ball joints and dust covers
>>> Brake lines and hoses
>>> Brake linings/drums and brake pads/discs 3 Drive shaft boots
>>> Engine coolant 4
>>> Exhaust pipes and mountings
>>> Front differential oil
>>> Fuel lines and connections, fuel tank band and fuel tank vapor vent
>>> system hoses
>>> Fuel tank cap gasket
>>> Radiator and condenser
>>> Rear differential oil (4WD)
>>> Steering gear box
>>> Steering linkage and boots
>>> Transfer case oil (4WD)
>>>
>>>
>>> Additional Maintenance Items for Special Operating Conditions:
>>>
>>> Driving While Towing
>>> Replace rear differential oil (4WD)
>>> Replace transfer case oil (4WD)
>>> Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis and body Driving on Dirt Roads or
>>> Dusty Roads
>>> Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis and body
>>>
>>>
>>> What did the shop manager recommend?
>>>
>>> Bear in mind, dealers are trying to MAKE money on service. It would be
>>> interesting to see what the Service Manager's recommendation is.
>>
>>
>> How nice of you to type what the OP can easily read in his/her owner's
>> manual.
>
> Not a problem. Not all of us are arrogant asses.


Never EVER spoon feed the helpless.


From: Mike Hunter on
Joe$#itForBrains the NG resident racists speaks LOL


"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> Your confusion is exquisite today, Uncle Jemima.
>
>
>
> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message
> news:4b96fb8b$0$31794$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net...
>> Obviously not to you it didn't, but that is why we call you
>> Joe$#itForBrains LOL
>>
>>
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> news:e%Bln.17130$mn6.7286(a)newsfe07.iad...
>>> Try and follow along with the conversation. I told the guy:
>>>
>>> "Why go to the dealer? Do you know a reputable independent mechanic?"
>>>
>>> You responded to MY message with this:
>>>
>>> "Perhaps you should first read you "Warranty Policy" booklet. 30,000
>>> miles
>>> service intervals have far more extensive maintenance requirements than
>>> other suggested warranty mileage intervals. Proper preventive
>>> maintenance
>>> doesn't cost, it pays"
>>>
>>> Your response made absolutely no sense as a response to what said.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b96e11c$0$32266$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net...
>>>> Joe$#itForBrains, it is not what can be serviced by whom it is about
>>>> WHAT should be serviced every 30,000 miles, dummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:C6yln.72354$0N3.70275(a)newsfe09.iad...
>>>>> That's interesting. Which specific service procedures CANNOT be
>>>>> performed by an independent mechanic? I just checked the warranty book
>>>>> for my 2004 Tacoma. It says nothing about who has to perform the
>>>>> service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again: Which specific service procedures CANNOT be performed by an
>>>>> independent mechanic?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4b96a5db$0$27460$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net...
>>>>>> Perhaps you should first read you "Warranty Policy" booklet. 30,000
>>>>>> miles service intervals have far more extensive maintenance
>>>>>> requirements than other suggested warranty mileage intervals. Proper
>>>>>> preventive maintenance doesn't cost, it pays
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Pqxln.72351$0N3.14271(a)newsfe09.iad...
>>>>>>> "fruit jar" <me(a)the.still> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:17dbp5p1m1lm4u5bkrecsgvbfcvrrbotim(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to
>>>>>>>> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the
>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with
>>>>>>>> the Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and
>>>>>>>> minor checks of all for a 4 wheel drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do all dealers try this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why go to the dealer? Do you know a reputable independent mechanic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


From: Mike Hunter on
When one sees a list of bad dealers, Toyota dealerships are among the top
two. One reason I stopped buying Lexus' vehicles was the way I was treated
by the dealership.




"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:44:12 -0600, charlesgrozny wrote:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:hn6rbm$d63$2(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:40:37 -0600, Ray O wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "fruit jar" <me(a)the.still> wrote in message
>>>> news:17dbp5p1m1lm4u5bkrecsgvbfcvrrbotim(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to
>>>>> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services
>>>>> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with
>>>>> the Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and
>>>>> minor checks of all for a 4 wheel drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do all dealers try this?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>
>>> A lot more are now, Ray. It's not like it was, at all. Dealers are
>>> trying to make money on the service departments and there is a lot more,
>>> er, *sly* activity going on than there was...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> We had one back in 1981 that was doing that. Lost his franchise, too.
>>
>> Charles Grozny
>
> I don't like a lot of the Toyota dealers that are left in this area.
>
>
>