Rav4-Dealer recommended 30K service takes 3.5 hours?
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From: Mike Hunter on 9 Mar 2010 21:02 Obviously not to you it didn't, but that is why we call you Joe$#itForBrains LOL "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:e%Bln.17130$mn6.7286(a)newsfe07.iad... > Try and follow along with the conversation. I told the guy: > > "Why go to the dealer? Do you know a reputable independent mechanic?" > > You responded to MY message with this: > > "Perhaps you should first read you "Warranty Policy" booklet. 30,000 > miles > service intervals have far more extensive maintenance requirements than > other suggested warranty mileage intervals. Proper preventive > maintenance > doesn't cost, it pays" > > Your response made absolutely no sense as a response to what said. > > > "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message > news:4b96e11c$0$32266$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >> Joe$#itForBrains, it is not what can be serviced by whom it is about WHAT >> should be serviced every 30,000 miles, dummy >> >> >> "Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >> news:C6yln.72354$0N3.70275(a)newsfe09.iad... >>> That's interesting. Which specific service procedures CANNOT be >>> performed by an independent mechanic? I just checked the warranty book >>> for my 2004 Tacoma. It says nothing about who has to perform the >>> service. >>> >>> Again: Which specific service procedures CANNOT be performed by an >>> independent mechanic? >>> >>> >>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>> news:4b96a5db$0$27460$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>> Perhaps you should first read you "Warranty Policy" booklet. 30,000 >>>> miles service intervals have far more extensive maintenance >>>> requirements than other suggested warranty mileage intervals. Proper >>>> preventive maintenance doesn't cost, it pays >>>> >>>> >>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >>>> news:Pqxln.72351$0N3.14271(a)newsfe09.iad... >>>>> "fruit jar" <me(a)the.still> wrote in message >>>>> news:17dbp5p1m1lm4u5bkrecsgvbfcvrrbotim(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to >>>>>> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services >>>>>> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with >>>>>> the Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and >>>>>> minor checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do all dealers try this? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why go to the dealer? Do you know a reputable independent mechanic? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 9 Mar 2010 21:04 Your confusion is exquisite today, Uncle Jemima. "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message news:4b96fb8b$0$31794$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... > Obviously not to you it didn't, but that is why we call you > Joe$#itForBrains LOL > > > "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message > news:e%Bln.17130$mn6.7286(a)newsfe07.iad... >> Try and follow along with the conversation. I told the guy: >> >> "Why go to the dealer? Do you know a reputable independent mechanic?" >> >> You responded to MY message with this: >> >> "Perhaps you should first read you "Warranty Policy" booklet. 30,000 >> miles >> service intervals have far more extensive maintenance requirements than >> other suggested warranty mileage intervals. Proper preventive >> maintenance >> doesn't cost, it pays" >> >> Your response made absolutely no sense as a response to what said. >> >> >> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >> news:4b96e11c$0$32266$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>> Joe$#itForBrains, it is not what can be serviced by whom it is about >>> WHAT should be serviced every 30,000 miles, dummy >>> >>> >>> "Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >>> news:C6yln.72354$0N3.70275(a)newsfe09.iad... >>>> That's interesting. Which specific service procedures CANNOT be >>>> performed by an independent mechanic? I just checked the warranty book >>>> for my 2004 Tacoma. It says nothing about who has to perform the >>>> service. >>>> >>>> Again: Which specific service procedures CANNOT be performed by an >>>> independent mechanic? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >>>> news:4b96a5db$0$27460$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>>>> Perhaps you should first read you "Warranty Policy" booklet. 30,000 >>>>> miles service intervals have far more extensive maintenance >>>>> requirements than other suggested warranty mileage intervals. >>>>> Proper preventive maintenance doesn't cost, it pays >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:Pqxln.72351$0N3.14271(a)newsfe09.iad... >>>>>> "fruit jar" <me(a)the.still> wrote in message >>>>>> news:17dbp5p1m1lm4u5bkrecsgvbfcvrrbotim(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>>I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to >>>>>>> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services >>>>>>> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with >>>>>>> the Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and >>>>>>> minor checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do all dealers try this? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why go to the dealer? Do you know a reputable independent mechanic? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
From: larry moe 'n curly on 9 Mar 2010 21:34 Ray O wrote: > > "fruit jar" <me(a)the.still> wrote in message > news:17dbp5p1m1lm4u5bkrecsgvbfcvrrbotim(a)4ax.com... > > > I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to > > know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services > > recommended by the Shop Manager. > > > > Do all dealers try this? > > No. What percentage of dealers that recommend only what the manufacturer requires? It seems very common for dealers to recommend maintenance that costs at least twice as much.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 9 Mar 2010 22:56 On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:09:14 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:hn6r9h$d63$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:56:51 -0500, fruit jar wrote: >> >>> I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to >>> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services >>> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with the >>> Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and minor >>> checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. >>> >>> Do all dealers try this? >> >> Reecommendation, from Toyota: >> >> >> Re-torque drive shaft bolt (4WD) >> Replace cabin air filter >> Replace engine air filter >> Replace engine oil and filter 1 >> Rotate tires >> Inspect the following: >> Automatic transmission fluid >> Ball joints and dust covers >> Brake lines and hoses >> Brake linings/drums and brake pads/discs 3 Drive shaft boots >> Engine coolant 4 >> Exhaust pipes and mountings >> Front differential oil >> Fuel lines and connections, fuel tank band and fuel tank vapor vent >> system hoses >> Fuel tank cap gasket >> Radiator and condenser >> Rear differential oil (4WD) >> Steering gear box >> Steering linkage and boots >> Transfer case oil (4WD) >> >> >> Additional Maintenance Items for Special Operating Conditions: >> >> Driving While Towing >> Replace rear differential oil (4WD) >> Replace transfer case oil (4WD) >> Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis and body Driving on Dirt Roads or >> Dusty Roads >> Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis and body >> >> >> What did the shop manager recommend? >> >> Bear in mind, dealers are trying to MAKE money on service. It would be >> interesting to see what the Service Manager's recommendation is. > > > How nice of you to type what the OP can easily read in his/her owner's > manual. Not a problem. Not all of us are arrogant asses.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 9 Mar 2010 22:57
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:44:12 -0600, charlesgrozny wrote: > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:hn6rbm$d63$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:40:37 -0600, Ray O wrote: >> >> >>> "fruit jar" <me(a)the.still> wrote in message >>> news:17dbp5p1m1lm4u5bkrecsgvbfcvrrbotim(a)4ax.com... >>>>I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to >>>> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services >>>> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with >>>> the Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and >>>> minor checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. >>>> >>>> Do all dealers try this? >>> >>> No. >> >> A lot more are now, Ray. It's not like it was, at all. Dealers are >> trying to make money on the service departments and there is a lot more, >> er, *sly* activity going on than there was... >> >> >> >> > We had one back in 1981 that was doing that. Lost his franchise, too. > > Charles Grozny I don't like a lot of the Toyota dealers that are left in this area. |