From: JoeSpareBedroom on 9 Mar 2010 19:48 Try and follow along with the conversation. I told the guy: "Why go to the dealer? Do you know a reputable independent mechanic?" You responded to MY message with this: "Perhaps you should first read you "Warranty Policy" booklet. 30,000 miles service intervals have far more extensive maintenance requirements than other suggested warranty mileage intervals. Proper preventive maintenance doesn't cost, it pays" Your response made absolutely no sense as a response to what said. "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message news:4b96e11c$0$32266$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... > Joe$#itForBrains, it is not what can be serviced by whom it is about WHAT > should be serviced every 30,000 miles, dummy > > > "Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message > news:C6yln.72354$0N3.70275(a)newsfe09.iad... >> That's interesting. Which specific service procedures CANNOT be performed >> by an independent mechanic? I just checked the warranty book for my 2004 >> Tacoma. It says nothing about who has to perform the service. >> >> Again: Which specific service procedures CANNOT be performed by an >> independent mechanic? >> >> >> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message >> news:4b96a5db$0$27460$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net... >>> Perhaps you should first read you "Warranty Policy" booklet. 30,000 >>> miles service intervals have far more extensive maintenance requirements >>> than other suggested warranty mileage intervals. Proper preventive >>> maintenance doesn't cost, it pays >>> >>> >>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >>> news:Pqxln.72351$0N3.14271(a)newsfe09.iad... >>>> "fruit jar" <me(a)the.still> wrote in message >>>> news:17dbp5p1m1lm4u5bkrecsgvbfcvrrbotim(a)4ax.com... >>>>>I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to >>>>> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services >>>>> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with >>>>> the Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and >>>>> minor checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. >>>>> >>>>> Do all dealers try this? >>>> >>>> >>>> Why go to the dealer? Do you know a reputable independent mechanic? >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 9 Mar 2010 20:05 On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:56:51 -0500, fruit jar wrote: > I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to know > if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services > recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with the > Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and minor > checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. > > Do all dealers try this? Reecommendation, from Toyota: Re-torque drive shaft bolt (4WD) Replace cabin air filter Replace engine air filter Replace engine oil and filter 1 Rotate tires Inspect the following: Automatic transmission fluid Ball joints and dust covers Brake lines and hoses Brake linings/drums and brake pads/discs 3 Drive shaft boots Engine coolant 4 Exhaust pipes and mountings Front differential oil Fuel lines and connections, fuel tank band and fuel tank vapor vent system hoses Fuel tank cap gasket Radiator and condenser Rear differential oil (4WD) Steering gear box Steering linkage and boots Transfer case oil (4WD) Additional Maintenance Items for Special Operating Conditions: Driving While Towing Replace rear differential oil (4WD) Replace transfer case oil (4WD) Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis and body Driving on Dirt Roads or Dusty Roads Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis and body What did the shop manager recommend? Bear in mind, dealers are trying to MAKE money on service. It would be interesting to see what the Service Manager's recommendation is.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 9 Mar 2010 20:07 On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:40:37 -0600, Ray O wrote: > > "fruit jar" <me(a)the.still> wrote in message > news:17dbp5p1m1lm4u5bkrecsgvbfcvrrbotim(a)4ax.com... >>I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to >> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services >> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with the >> Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and minor >> checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. >> >> Do all dealers try this? > > No. A lot more are now, Ray. It's not like it was, at all. Dealers are trying to make money on the service departments and there is a lot more, er, *sly* activity going on than there was...
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 9 Mar 2010 20:09 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:hn6r9h$d63$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:56:51 -0500, fruit jar wrote: > >> I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to know >> if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services >> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with the >> Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and minor >> checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. >> >> Do all dealers try this? > > Reecommendation, from Toyota: > > > Re-torque drive shaft bolt (4WD) > Replace cabin air filter > Replace engine air filter > Replace engine oil and filter 1 > Rotate tires > Inspect the following: > Automatic transmission fluid > Ball joints and dust covers > Brake lines and hoses > Brake linings/drums and brake pads/discs 3 > Drive shaft boots > Engine coolant 4 > Exhaust pipes and mountings > Front differential oil > Fuel lines and connections, fuel tank band and fuel tank vapor vent > system hoses > Fuel tank cap gasket > Radiator and condenser > Rear differential oil (4WD) > Steering gear box > Steering linkage and boots > Transfer case oil (4WD) > > > Additional Maintenance Items for Special Operating Conditions: > > Driving While Towing > Replace rear differential oil (4WD) > Replace transfer case oil (4WD) > Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis and body > Driving on Dirt Roads or Dusty Roads > Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis and body > > > What did the shop manager recommend? > > Bear in mind, dealers are trying to MAKE money on service. It would be > interesting to see what the Service Manager's recommendation is. How nice of you to type what the OP can easily read in his/her owner's manual.
From: charlesgrozny on 9 Mar 2010 20:44
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:hn6rbm$d63$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:40:37 -0600, Ray O wrote: > >> >> "fruit jar" <me(a)the.still> wrote in message >> news:17dbp5p1m1lm4u5bkrecsgvbfcvrrbotim(a)4ax.com... >>>I called my dealer today to schedule a 30K service. They wanted to >>> know if I could leave it as it would take 3.5 hours for the services >>> recommended by the Shop Manager. I said no THANKS, I would go with the >>> Toyota recommended tire rotation, oil change and air filter and minor >>> checks of all for a 4 wheel drive. >>> >>> Do all dealers try this? >> >> No. > > A lot more are now, Ray. It's not like it was, at all. Dealers are trying > to make money on the service departments and there is a lot more, er, > *sly* activity going on than there was... > > > We had one back in 1981 that was doing that. Lost his franchise, too. Charles Grozny |