RECALL of Floor Mats
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From: Jeff Strickland on 29 Sep 2009 19:45 They just showed a story of a recall for floor mats on 4 or 5 Toyota models and 3 Lexus models. Some of you might recall a discussion here in the last two weeks or so of a Lexus where a passenger in the car called 911 because the car was doing 100+ mph. The car crashed during the call, and all four people were killed. A California CHP officer was reportedly the driver, and his wife's brother made the 911 call. The cop, his wife, her brother, and a child, all were killed. In any case, Toyota is telling people to remove the floor mats from the driver side footwell IMMEDIATELY. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-to-recall-38M-vehicles-apf-1798738225.html?x=0
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 29 Sep 2009 21:46 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:45:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: > They just showed a story of a recall for floor mats on 4 or 5 Toyota > models and 3 Lexus models. > > Some of you might recall a discussion here in the last two weeks or so of > a Lexus where a passenger in the car called 911 because the car was doing > 100+ mph. The car crashed during the call, and all four people were > killed. A California CHP officer was reportedly the driver, and his wife's > brother made the 911 call. The cop, his wife, her brother, and a child, > all were killed. > > In any case, Toyota is telling people to remove the floor mats from the > driver side footwell IMMEDIATELY. > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-to-recall-38M-vehicles-apf-1798738225.html?x=0 How far do you have to depress the throttle to catch the throttle under the floor mat? Pretty much down to the floor.
From: Jeff Strickland on 29 Sep 2009 22:02 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.09.30.01.46.44.785846(a)e86.GTS... > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:45:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: > >> They just showed a story of a recall for floor mats on 4 or 5 Toyota >> models and 3 Lexus models. >> >> Some of you might recall a discussion here in the last two weeks or so of >> a Lexus where a passenger in the car called 911 because the car was doing >> 100+ mph. The car crashed during the call, and all four people were >> killed. A California CHP officer was reportedly the driver, and his >> wife's >> brother made the 911 call. The cop, his wife, her brother, and a child, >> all were killed. >> >> In any case, Toyota is telling people to remove the floor mats from the >> driver side footwell IMMEDIATELY. >> >> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-to-recall-38M-vehicles-apf-1798738225.html?x=0 > > > How far do you have to depress the throttle to catch the throttle under > the floor mat? > > Pretty much down to the floor. > > > I don't have any actual experience, but I see it as entirely reasonable that the mats might catch the pedal, and the driver seeks to work the pedal with his foot, and it sticks worse. Eventually the pedal is on the floor and the car is barrelling down the highway at 100+ mph.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 29 Sep 2009 22:53 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:02:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2009.09.30.01.46.44.785846(a)e86.GTS... >> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:45:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >>> They just showed a story of a recall for floor mats on 4 or 5 Toyota >>> models and 3 Lexus models. >>> >>> Some of you might recall a discussion here in the last two weeks or so >>> of a Lexus where a passenger in the car called 911 because the car was >>> doing 100+ mph. The car crashed during the call, and all four people >>> were killed. A California CHP officer was reportedly the driver, and >>> his wife's >>> brother made the 911 call. The cop, his wife, her brother, and a child, >>> all were killed. >>> >>> In any case, Toyota is telling people to remove the floor mats from the >>> driver side footwell IMMEDIATELY. >>> >>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-to-recall-38M-vehicles-apf-1798738225.html?x=0 >> >> >> How far do you have to depress the throttle to catch the throttle under >> the floor mat? >> >> Pretty much down to the floor. >> >> >> > I don't have any actual experience, but I see it as entirely reasonable > that the mats might catch the pedal, and the driver seeks to work the > pedal with his foot, and it sticks worse. Eventually the pedal is on the > floor and the car is barrelling down the highway at 100+ mph. In the good old days before they put the clips to hold the floor mats back, the mat would slide towards the front of the footwell merely by getting in and put of the car. Far less distracting than talking on the phone, you could reach down with one hand and pull the mat back into place.
From: Jeff Strickland on 30 Sep 2009 09:49
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.09.30.02.53.42.742927(a)e86.GTS... > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:02:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: > >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2009.09.30.01.46.44.785846(a)e86.GTS... >>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:45:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: >>> >>>> They just showed a story of a recall for floor mats on 4 or 5 Toyota >>>> models and 3 Lexus models. >>>> >>>> Some of you might recall a discussion here in the last two weeks or so >>>> of a Lexus where a passenger in the car called 911 because the car was >>>> doing 100+ mph. The car crashed during the call, and all four people >>>> were killed. A California CHP officer was reportedly the driver, and >>>> his wife's >>>> brother made the 911 call. The cop, his wife, her brother, and a child, >>>> all were killed. >>>> >>>> In any case, Toyota is telling people to remove the floor mats from the >>>> driver side footwell IMMEDIATELY. >>>> >>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-to-recall-38M-vehicles-apf-1798738225.html?x=0 >>> >>> >>> How far do you have to depress the throttle to catch the throttle under >>> the floor mat? >>> >>> Pretty much down to the floor. >>> >>> >>> >> I don't have any actual experience, but I see it as entirely reasonable >> that the mats might catch the pedal, and the driver seeks to work the >> pedal with his foot, and it sticks worse. Eventually the pedal is on the >> floor and the car is barrelling down the highway at 100+ mph. > > In the good old days before they put the clips to hold the floor mats > back, the mat would slide towards the front of the footwell merely by > getting in and put of the car. > > Far less distracting than talking on the phone, you could reach down with > one hand and pull the mat back into place. > > > I check the mats every time I get into the car, and straighten them if necessary. Every car I've ever owned had the gas pedal hanging down from somewhere under the dash, I'm at a loss to see how floor mats could possibly get in the way, but apparently it can happen. |