From: Tomes on 30 Sep 2009 14:16 Jeff Strickland wrote: > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2009.09.30.02.53.42.742927(a)e86.GTS... >> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:02:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2009.09.30.01.46.44.785846(a)e86.GTS... >>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:45:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: >>>> >>>>> They just showed a story of a recall for floor mats on 4 or 5 Toyota >>>>> models and 3 Lexus models. >>>>> >>>>> Some of you might recall a discussion here in the last two weeks or so >>>>> of a Lexus where a passenger in the car called 911 because the car was >>>>> doing 100+ mph. The car crashed during the call, and all four people >>>>> were killed. A California CHP officer was reportedly the driver, and >>>>> his wife's >>>>> brother made the 911 call. The cop, his wife, her brother, and a child, >>>>> all were killed. >>>>> >>>>> In any case, Toyota is telling people to remove the floor mats from the >>>>> driver side footwell IMMEDIATELY. >>>>> >>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-to-recall-38M-vehicles-apf-1798738225.html?x=0 >>>> >>>> How far do you have to depress the throttle to catch the throttle under >>>> the floor mat? >>>> >>>> Pretty much down to the floor. >>>> >>> I don't have any actual experience, but I see it as entirely reasonable >>> that the mats might catch the pedal, and the driver seeks to work the >>> pedal with his foot, and it sticks worse. Eventually the pedal is on the >>> floor and the car is barrelling down the highway at 100+ mph. >> In the good old days before they put the clips to hold the floor mats >> back, the mat would slide towards the front of the footwell merely by >> getting in and put of the car. >> >> Far less distracting than talking on the phone, you could reach down with >> one hand and pull the mat back into place. >> > > I check the mats every time I get into the car, and straighten them if > necessary. > > Every car I've ever owned had the gas pedal hanging down from somewhere > under the dash, I'm at a loss to see how floor mats could possibly get in > the way, but apparently it can happen. > I have had it happen in the old Gremlin and in the Chevy Van G30 based Class C Motorhome I have now. I took out that piece of carpet by the toe. I did not get to 100 MPG, but I knew it was sticking a little bit. That was all I needed.... Tomes
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 30 Sep 2009 16:24
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:16:29 -0400, Tomes wrote: > Jeff Strickland wrote: >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2009.09.30.02.53.42.742927(a)e86.GTS... >>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:02:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:pan.2009.09.30.01.46.44.785846(a)e86.GTS... >>>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:45:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> They just showed a story of a recall for floor mats on 4 or 5 Toyota >>>>>> models and 3 Lexus models. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of you might recall a discussion here in the last two weeks or >>>>>> so of a Lexus where a passenger in the car called 911 because the >>>>>> car was doing 100+ mph. The car crashed during the call, and all >>>>>> four people were killed. A California CHP officer was reportedly the >>>>>> driver, and his wife's >>>>>> brother made the 911 call. The cop, his wife, her brother, and a >>>>>> child, all were killed. >>>>>> >>>>>> In any case, Toyota is telling people to remove the floor mats from >>>>>> the driver side footwell IMMEDIATELY. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-to-recall-38M-vehicles-apf-1798738225.html?x=0 >>>>> >>>>> How far do you have to depress the throttle to catch the throttle >>>>> under the floor mat? >>>>> >>>>> Pretty much down to the floor. >>>>> >>>> I don't have any actual experience, but I see it as entirely >>>> reasonable that the mats might catch the pedal, and the driver seeks >>>> to work the pedal with his foot, and it sticks worse. Eventually the >>>> pedal is on the floor and the car is barrelling down the highway at >>>> 100+ mph. >>> In the good old days before they put the clips to hold the floor mats >>> back, the mat would slide towards the front of the footwell merely by >>> getting in and put of the car. >>> >>> Far less distracting than talking on the phone, you could reach down >>> with one hand and pull the mat back into place. >>> >>> >> I check the mats every time I get into the car, and straighten them if >> necessary. >> >> Every car I've ever owned had the gas pedal hanging down from somewhere >> under the dash, I'm at a loss to see how floor mats could possibly get >> in the way, but apparently it can happen. >> > I have had it happen in the old Gremlin and in the Chevy Van G30 based > Class C Motorhome I have now. I took out that piece of carpet by the toe. > I did not get to 100 MPG, but I knew it was sticking a little bit. > That was all I needed.... > Tomes WOW! 100MPG?!?!?! Al Gore will KISS you!!! ;p |