From: Tomes on
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.09.30.02.53.42.742927(a)e86.GTS...
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:02:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2009.09.30.01.46.44.785846(a)e86.GTS...
>>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:45:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They just showed a story of a recall for floor mats on 4 or 5 Toyota
>>>>> models and 3 Lexus models.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of you might recall a discussion here in the last two weeks or so
>>>>> of a Lexus where a passenger in the car called 911 because the car was
>>>>> doing 100+ mph. The car crashed during the call, and all four people
>>>>> were killed. A California CHP officer was reportedly the driver, and
>>>>> his wife's
>>>>> brother made the 911 call. The cop, his wife, her brother, and a child,
>>>>> all were killed.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, Toyota is telling people to remove the floor mats from the
>>>>> driver side footwell IMMEDIATELY.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-to-recall-38M-vehicles-apf-1798738225.html?x=0
>>>>
>>>> How far do you have to depress the throttle to catch the throttle under
>>>> the floor mat?
>>>>
>>>> Pretty much down to the floor.
>>>>
>>> I don't have any actual experience, but I see it as entirely reasonable
>>> that the mats might catch the pedal, and the driver seeks to work the
>>> pedal with his foot, and it sticks worse. Eventually the pedal is on the
>>> floor and the car is barrelling down the highway at 100+ mph.
>> In the good old days before they put the clips to hold the floor mats
>> back, the mat would slide towards the front of the footwell merely by
>> getting in and put of the car.
>>
>> Far less distracting than talking on the phone, you could reach down with
>> one hand and pull the mat back into place.
>>
>
> I check the mats every time I get into the car, and straighten them if
> necessary.
>
> Every car I've ever owned had the gas pedal hanging down from somewhere
> under the dash, I'm at a loss to see how floor mats could possibly get in
> the way, but apparently it can happen.
>
I have had it happen in the old Gremlin and in the Chevy Van G30 based
Class C Motorhome I have now. I took out that piece of carpet by the
toe. I did not get to 100 MPG, but I knew it was sticking a little bit.
That was all I needed....
Tomes
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:16:29 -0400, Tomes wrote:

> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2009.09.30.02.53.42.742927(a)e86.GTS...
>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:02:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2009.09.30.01.46.44.785846(a)e86.GTS...
>>>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:45:10 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They just showed a story of a recall for floor mats on 4 or 5 Toyota
>>>>>> models and 3 Lexus models.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of you might recall a discussion here in the last two weeks or
>>>>>> so of a Lexus where a passenger in the car called 911 because the
>>>>>> car was doing 100+ mph. The car crashed during the call, and all
>>>>>> four people were killed. A California CHP officer was reportedly the
>>>>>> driver, and his wife's
>>>>>> brother made the 911 call. The cop, his wife, her brother, and a
>>>>>> child, all were killed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any case, Toyota is telling people to remove the floor mats from
>>>>>> the driver side footwell IMMEDIATELY.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-to-recall-38M-vehicles-apf-1798738225.html?x=0
>>>>>
>>>>> How far do you have to depress the throttle to catch the throttle
>>>>> under the floor mat?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty much down to the floor.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't have any actual experience, but I see it as entirely
>>>> reasonable that the mats might catch the pedal, and the driver seeks
>>>> to work the pedal with his foot, and it sticks worse. Eventually the
>>>> pedal is on the floor and the car is barrelling down the highway at
>>>> 100+ mph.
>>> In the good old days before they put the clips to hold the floor mats
>>> back, the mat would slide towards the front of the footwell merely by
>>> getting in and put of the car.
>>>
>>> Far less distracting than talking on the phone, you could reach down
>>> with one hand and pull the mat back into place.
>>>
>>>
>> I check the mats every time I get into the car, and straighten them if
>> necessary.
>>
>> Every car I've ever owned had the gas pedal hanging down from somewhere
>> under the dash, I'm at a loss to see how floor mats could possibly get
>> in the way, but apparently it can happen.
>>
> I have had it happen in the old Gremlin and in the Chevy Van G30 based
> Class C Motorhome I have now. I took out that piece of carpet by the toe.
> I did not get to 100 MPG, but I knew it was sticking a little bit.
> That was all I needed....
> Tomes

WOW! 100MPG?!?!?!

Al Gore will KISS you!!! ;p