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From: Devil's_Advocate on 14 Mar 2010 16:44
Scott in Florida <MoveOn(a)Outa.here> wrote :

> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:19:58 -0600, "Devil's_Advocate"
><Devils_Advocate(a)devils_.xyx> wrote:
>
>>Scott in Florida <MoveOn(a)Outa.here> wrote :
>>
>>>>I notice you cant even find the 93's anymore. Barely anything older
than
>>>>98's out there. Are people keeping the older ones?
>>>>
>>
>>> Hell yes...
>>
>>How come?
>
> In my case (92 Corolla Wagon), it was built before the 'cost people' got
> involved and led to the present 'quality' problems.
>
> My car is built like a tank, and can be fixed easily when it breaks.
>
> Besides it makes sense. It is an old fashioned wagon.
>
> I'll buy a new Corolla. but I'll keep this wagon to carry my bicycle and
> kayak.

That was what I was thinking when we drove these two newer ones. But they
didn't even run that well. The 2001 Corolla S couldnt get out of its own
way compared to my 93 wagon! It had about 1/2 the pickup! In a "sport"
model???





From: Ray O on 14 Mar 2010 21:09

"Devil's_Advocate" <Devils_Advocate(a)devils_.xyx> wrote in message
news:Xns9D3B96010B26BDevilsAdvocatedevils(a)216.196.97.142...
> Scott in Florida <MoveOn(a)Outa.here> wrote :
>
>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:19:58 -0600, "Devil's_Advocate"
>><Devils_Advocate(a)devils_.xyx> wrote:
>>
>>>Scott in Florida <MoveOn(a)Outa.here> wrote :
>>>
>>>>>I notice you cant even find the 93's anymore. Barely anything older
> than
>>>>>98's out there. Are people keeping the older ones?
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> Hell yes...
>>>
>>>How come?
>>
>> In my case (92 Corolla Wagon), it was built before the 'cost people' got
>> involved and led to the present 'quality' problems.
>>
>> My car is built like a tank, and can be fixed easily when it breaks.
>>
>> Besides it makes sense. It is an old fashioned wagon.
>>
>> I'll buy a new Corolla. but I'll keep this wagon to carry my bicycle and
>> kayak.
>
> That was what I was thinking when we drove these two newer ones. But they
> didn't even run that well. The 2001 Corolla S couldnt get out of its own
> way compared to my 93 wagon! It had about 1/2 the pickup! In a "sport"
> model???
>
In the 2001 Corolla, the "sport" model is more of a trim level, not a
horsepower or torque boost.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Devil's_Advocate on 14 Mar 2010 22:30
"Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote :

>> That was what I was thinking when we drove these two newer ones. But they
>> didn't even run that well. The 2001 Corolla S couldnt get out of its own
>> way compared to my 93 wagon! It had about 1/2 the pickup! In a "sport"
>> model???
>>
> In the 2001 Corolla, the "sport" model is more of a trim level, not a
> horsepower or torque boost.

No something MUST have been wrong with that one.

We went to see a 2002 Corolla LE today and it drove so nicely we put a
deposit on it. I'm taking it to a mechanic tomorrow.

It's in very nice outside condition, has been detailed so the engine looks
great, has 114k miles on it, automatic, air, cruise, and is $4900.

Now IT has more pickup than our wagon, because it's the same sized engine but
less weight. THAT was what we expected. That S model must have had something
wrong with it.

From: Devil's_Advocate on 14 Mar 2010 23:49
Scott in Florida <MoveOn(a)Outa.here> wrote :


> A friend of mine and I drove his new 2009 Corolla from North Georgia to
> Washington DC last summer. That Corolla had plenty of pickup.
>
> The electric assisted power steering took some getting used to, but I liked
> the car.

With that one we saw Friday, I suspect it wasnt downshifting when floored.



From: homepc on 15 Mar 2010 08:04
http://www.carcraft.co.uk/news/story/101/used-toyota-corolla-rated-as-most-reliable-car-on-the-road

According to this article 2002 to 2007 model years are rated most reliable
due to the least number of repair claims. I have been using Google news
notification to monitor any new recalls on Corollas and so far there have
been no recalls on these model years.




"Devil's_Advocate" <Devils_Advocate(a)devils_.xyx> wrote in message
news:Xns9D3AC242D926EDevilsAdvocatedevils(a)216.196.97.142...
> Ok, I started actually going out and looking for a Corolla these past few
> days, and drove a couple.
>
> Like I said here before, we've had the '93 Dx wagon since 1995 and it's
> great. It gets 28-35 MPG, and has nice pickup too, a wagon. Has 190k miles
> now.
>
> But we need a second car for our business, for tax purposes, to keep
> separate from our personal car. So I've been sort of keeping my eye out
> for
> about a year now, but we've reached the point where we need to buy one.
>
> So Friday we looked at a 2000 plain Corolla ( not wagon ) with 114k miles.
> It wasnt as zippy as the wagon, and didn't seem to run as well.
>
> Then today we looked at another. This one was a 2001 Corolla S. The S
> apparently stands for "sport". It has a sun roof. Whoo hoo! BUT it's
> smaller and I'm 6' tall and there was about a half inch between my head
> and
> the roof of this car. I was afraid that if I hit a good bump driving it, I
> could break my neck and be killed or paralyzed. And when I stepped on the
> gas, it hesitated and waited for me to step more, then moved. And it had
> nowhere NEAR the pickup that our wagon has, even though the engine is 1.8L
> EFI in BOTH! A sport sedan with about half the pickup as my old wagon!
>
> What is THAT???
>
> So is it just that later Corolla models aint so hot, compared to the 93's
> or what?
>
> Are there better or worse years, is that what we're seeing here?
>
> If so, what are the better years for these, going back from around 2000,
> to
> about '93?
>


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