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From: Jeff on 28 Jan 2008 00:52
Ashton Crusher wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:44:34 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote:
>
>> OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
>> Bar's Head gasket repair.
>>
>> http://www.barsproducts.com/1100.htm
>>
>> Yeah, I've got some snake oil in the refrigerator, too.
>>
>> All the car has to do is last until April or May. If this stuff works,
>> fine. It's supposed to be permanent, but I'm keeping my betting money in
>> my pocket.
>>
>> If you want to try this stuff, be prepared to spend a couple days (or one
>> good summer day; of course, the gaskets on my car couldn't wait for nicer
>> weather...) I was also looking at K&W Permanent Head gasket and block
>> repair
>>
>> http://www.autocarepronews.com/default.aspx?type=art&id=5191&
>>
>>
>
> Snip..
>
> I did the same thing on a Toyota with a bad head gasket. It fixed it.
> Then the transmission started acting funny. So I sold it. Car only
> had 100K on it and it was falling apart... so much for quality Toyota
> products. And it had been bought new by my in laws and they did not
> abuse it in any way.

Every car maker makes a few bad cars.

The plural of anecdote is not data.
From: mack on 28 Jan 2008 02:29

Hachi,

If it's any comfort to you, I had a Peugeot about 15 years ago with a head
gasket problem - lots of water in the oil - and drove it over to Newport
Beach, to the only Peugeot mechanic within many miles, who said he'd replace
the head gasket for about $1500. When I got up off the floor, I asked why,
and he said it would include a valve job, etc etc. I told him NO valve
job. He said he wouldn't do it and got a little snotty, so I bade him
goodbye.
Went home and bought a bottle of Bar's Stop Leak and poured it in the
radiator (without draining the coolant out, as your guy recommended). It was
about $5 as I recall, in a bottle about the size of one you'd get rubbing
alcohol in.
Long story short, I drove the car another two years until I sold it with no
water in the oil, and no problems with the cooling system. worked for me,
and I hope it does for you!


From: Hachiroku on 28 Jan 2008 05:54
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:29:44 -0800, mack wrote:

> Long story short, I drove the car another two years until I sold it with no
> water in the oil, and no problems with the cooling system. worked for me,
> and I hope it does for you!


I'm on the last stage now; flushing and refilling. It's taking a while
since it's hovering right around freezing, and cracking the block is the
last thing I want to do right now!

But, the gaskets were JUST starting to go; no oil in the water, no water
in the oil, and it just started spitting steam from the tailpipe Friday.
The mechanic said they were very light leaks and doing this should get a
few more months at least before I have to pull the heads.
From: .._.. on 28 Jan 2008 08:47

"Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote in message
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> OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
> Bar's Head gasket repair.
>
> http://www.barsproducts.com/1100.htm
>
> Yeah, I've got some snake oil in the refrigerator, too.
>
> All the car has to do is last until April or May. If this stuff works,
> fine. It's supposed to be permanent, but I'm keeping my betting money in
> my pocket.
>

It's only permenent if by that you mean "works long enough to get out of
warranty so SOA doesnt have to pay for a gasket replacement."


From: M.J. on 28 Jan 2008 19:02
"Retired VIP" <jackj.extradots.180(a)windstream.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:44:34 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote:
>
>>OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
>>Bar's Head gasket repair.
>
> Big Bunch Snipped
>
> Parden me for asking Mr. Hachiroku but from what you've said you had
> to do to use this stuff, wouldn't it be faster to just replace the
> head gasket? Yeah, it would cost more money but then you'd know it
> was fixed.

There's also some risk associated with the repair- quality of services
is not always top notch (people encounter various problems associated
with the repair such as mis-alighnned belt teeth, etc.), also Subaru head
gaskets can be a nasty re-occuring problem.

I am a great fan of giving patch-up jobs a chance.

They do work many times and can be economical, if done the
right way and without delay (!). If the guy can get 10K, or
15k, miles out of some cheap fix what's wrong with that?

M.J.

> Jack


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