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From: Hachiroku on 27 Jan 2008 16:44
OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
Bar's Head gasket repair.

http://www.barsproducts.com/1100.htm

Yeah, I've got some snake oil in the refrigerator, too.

All the car has to do is last until April or May. If this stuff works,
fine. It's supposed to be permanent, but I'm keeping my betting money in
my pocket.

If you want to try this stuff, be prepared to spend a couple days (or one
good summer day; of course, the gaskets on my car couldn't wait for nicer
weather...) I was also looking at K&W Permanent Head gasket and block
repair

http://www.autocarepronews.com/default.aspx?type=art&id=5191&

I bought the Bar's stuff since they're as old as dirt. I called tech
support at both places before beginning and they both stressed one thing:
Make sure ALL the anti-freeze is out of the engine! If you flush the
system, and the water is running yellow, flush it again. It has to be
clear water. The were both adamant about this.

So, I spent yesterday draining, filling, draining, flushing, draining,
filling, flushing until the water coming out of any open orifice was
crystal clear. By this time it was 9PM and I had to eveict the Supra from
the heated garage, since there was still some water and NO anti-freeze in
the engine.

This morning I put the thermostat back in and placed a hose to bypass the
heater core. This was a thought I had, and even though it is not mentioned
on either bottle in the detailed instructions, both tech support people
recommended this since the heater core has smaller passages than the
radiator.

I mixed the stuff according to instructions; one bottle with 3 quarts warm
water, and filled the radiator. They want to make sure the cooling system
is full, so you run the car until the t-stat opens, shut it down ,wait and
check. Refill and start again. Do this a couple times until the radiator
is full.

Then start the car and run it at a high idle. This is where I am right
now. I have to admit, the 'chuffing' sound the car was making is
subsiding. You have to run the car at a high idle for 20-30 minutes. It
also says if the leak has just started or is very small, to return the
engine to normal idle and run of one hour. Since the gaskets just started
going, this is what I'll do. I am almost at the end of the 20 minute high
idle cycle now, and as I said, the chuffing noise is drastically
diminished.

After this is complete, you cool the car again, and drain the mixture out
of the car. My poor Supra is going to have to stay outside (first time
it's seen snow in 5 years...) because you have to drain the colling system
thoroughly and let it sit for at least 12 hours, and then flush again,
then refill with regular anti-freeze.

Wish me luck...


From: Scott in Florida on 27 Jan 2008 17:02
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:44:34 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote:

>OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
>Bar's Head gasket repair.
>
>http://www.barsproducts.com/1100.htm
>
>Yeah, I've got some snake oil in the refrigerator, too.
>
>All the car has to do is last until April or May. If this stuff works,
>fine. It's supposed to be permanent, but I'm keeping my betting money in
>my pocket.
>
>If you want to try this stuff, be prepared to spend a couple days (or one
>good summer day; of course, the gaskets on my car couldn't wait for nicer
>weather...) I was also looking at K&W Permanent Head gasket and block
>repair
>
>http://www.autocarepronews.com/default.aspx?type=art&id=5191&
>
>I bought the Bar's stuff since they're as old as dirt. I called tech
>support at both places before beginning and they both stressed one thing:
>Make sure ALL the anti-freeze is out of the engine! If you flush the
>system, and the water is running yellow, flush it again. It has to be
>clear water. The were both adamant about this.
>
>So, I spent yesterday draining, filling, draining, flushing, draining,
>filling, flushing until the water coming out of any open orifice was
>crystal clear. By this time it was 9PM and I had to eveict the Supra from
>the heated garage, since there was still some water and NO anti-freeze in
>the engine.
>
>This morning I put the thermostat back in and placed a hose to bypass the
>heater core. This was a thought I had, and even though it is not mentioned
>on either bottle in the detailed instructions, both tech support people
>recommended this since the heater core has smaller passages than the
>radiator.
>
>I mixed the stuff according to instructions; one bottle with 3 quarts warm
>water, and filled the radiator. They want to make sure the cooling system
>is full, so you run the car until the t-stat opens, shut it down ,wait and
>check. Refill and start again. Do this a couple times until the radiator
>is full.
>
>Then start the car and run it at a high idle. This is where I am right
>now. I have to admit, the 'chuffing' sound the car was making is
>subsiding. You have to run the car at a high idle for 20-30 minutes. It
>also says if the leak has just started or is very small, to return the
>engine to normal idle and run of one hour. Since the gaskets just started
>going, this is what I'll do. I am almost at the end of the 20 minute high
>idle cycle now, and as I said, the chuffing noise is drastically
>diminished.
>
>After this is complete, you cool the car again, and drain the mixture out
>of the car. My poor Supra is going to have to stay outside (first time
>it's seen snow in 5 years...) because you have to drain the colling system
>thoroughly and let it sit for at least 12 hours, and then flush again,
>then refill with regular anti-freeze.
>
>Wish me luck...
>

Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
Scott in Florida




From: Retired VIP on 27 Jan 2008 20:51
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:44:34 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote:

>OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
>Bar's Head gasket repair.

Big Bunch Snipped

Parden me for asking Mr. Hachiroku but from what you've said you had
to do to use this stuff, wouldn't it be faster to just replace the
head gasket? Yeah, it would cost more money but then you'd know it
was fixed.

Jack
From: Hachiroku on 27 Jan 2008 21:09
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:51:17 +0000, Retired VIP wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:44:34 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote:
>
>>OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
>>Bar's Head gasket repair.
>
> Big Bunch Snipped
>
> Parden me for asking Mr. Hachiroku but from what you've said you had to do
> to use this stuff, wouldn't it be faster to just replace the head gasket?
> Yeah, it would cost more money but then you'd know it was fixed.
>
> Jack


Ya know, Jack, right around suppertime I was thinking the very same thing!

However, it's 23 degrees today, and I have to do most work on the apron
outside the garage, 'cause garage space was not a big priority for the
people that built this house. There's just about enough room to swing a
cat...


From: alf on 27 Jan 2008 22:39
Hachiroku wrote:
>
> Wish me luck...
>
good luck, keep us posted!

Andy

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