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From: Hachiroku on 28 Jan 2008 22:21
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:39:43 -0600, alf wrote:

> Hachiroku wrote:
>>
>> Wish me luck...
>>
> good luck, keep us posted!
>
> Andy


So far, so good. It seems it may have actually worked. Once I clean up the
anti-freeze that spilled all over the car, I'll see if any more appears...

It's not sluggish anymore, it's not steaming, and seems to be running ok.

One thing...there is a kind of a grinding noise from the front of the car.
The guys at Autozone think maybe it also sealed the bearing on the water
pump...?

Eh, water pump's $35...and another weekend...


From: Hachiroku on 28 Jan 2008 22:22
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:02:27 +0000, M.J. wrote:

> "Retired VIP" <jackj.extradots.180(a)windstream.net> wrote in message
> news:i3dqp3hq961ql5h896qce4s6marvmukssm(a)4ax.com...
>
>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:44:34 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote:
>>
>>>OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
>>>Bar's Head gasket repair.
>>
>> Big Bunch Snipped
>>
>> Parden me for asking Mr. Hachiroku but from what you've said you had to
>> do to use this stuff, wouldn't it be faster to just replace the head
>> gasket? Yeah, it would cost more money but then you'd know it was
>> fixed.
>
> There's also some risk associated with the repair- quality of services is
> not always top notch (people encounter various problems associated with
> the repair such as mis-alighnned belt teeth, etc.), also Subaru head
> gaskets can be a nasty re-occuring problem.
>
> I am a great fan of giving patch-up jobs a chance.
>
> They do work many times and can be economical, if done the right way and
> without delay (!). If the guy can get 10K, or 15k, miles out of some
> cheap fix what's wrong with that?
>
> M.J.
>
>> Jack


I think I need about 12K! We'll see! ;)


From: Bob Noble on 29 Jan 2008 00:41
I believe we might be talking about two different barsleak products. It
sounds like the one you are using is the one I like that has the plastic
balls in it.
You don't have to drain the radiator down for this one and it works most of
the time for quite awhile. If it was to fail, I'd apply it again.

The other one may be what I've heard of recently that is suppose to put some
kind of glass coat on or something like that.
The only person I've heard of that used this type said it didn't work for
them.
The plastic ball type has worked a couple of times for me and is much less
hassle to use.
Barsleak makes a lot of products, some work and some don't and I suppose it
makes a difference on what the particular problem is and how the product was
applied.
The gray to black liquid with the grayish balls in it is what I've found to
work the best on gasket leaks in the subs.
Some other manufacturers make a similar product. It was one of these I used
successfully the first time I learned about this stuff.
--
Bob Noble
http://www.sonic.net/bnoble
"mack" <mackerel(a)dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hachi,
>
> If it's any comfort to you, I had a Peugeot about 15 years ago with a head
> gasket problem - lots of water in the oil - and drove it over to Newport
> Beach, to the only Peugeot mechanic within many miles, who said he'd
> replace the head gasket for about $1500. When I got up off the floor, I
> asked why, and he said it would include a valve job, etc etc. I told him
> NO valve job. He said he wouldn't do it and got a little snotty, so I
> bade him goodbye.
> Went home and bought a bottle of Bar's Stop Leak and poured it in the
> radiator (without draining the coolant out, as your guy recommended). It
> was about $5 as I recall, in a bottle about the size of one you'd get
> rubbing alcohol in.
> Long story short, I drove the car another two years until I sold it with
> no water in the oil, and no problems with the cooling system. worked for
> me, and I hope it does for you!
>

From: M.J. on 29 Jan 2008 03:35

"Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:02:27 +0000, M.J. wrote:
>
>> "Retired VIP" <jackj.extradots.180(a)windstream.net> wrote in message
>> news:i3dqp3hq961ql5h896qce4s6marvmukssm(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:44:34 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote:
>>>
>>>>OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
>>>>Bar's Head gasket repair.
>>>
>>> Big Bunch Snipped
>>>
>>> Parden me for asking Mr. Hachiroku but from what you've said you had to
>>> do to use this stuff, wouldn't it be faster to just replace the head
>>> gasket? Yeah, it would cost more money but then you'd know it was
>>> fixed.
>>
>> There's also some risk associated with the repair- quality of services is
>> not always top notch (people encounter various problems associated with
>> the repair such as mis-alighnned belt teeth, etc.),


Actually, risk of poorly milled heads is what I had in mind when I
wrote above.

M.J.


> also Subaru head
>> gaskets can be a nasty re-occuring problem.
>>
>> I am a great fan of giving patch-up jobs a chance.
>>
>> They do work many times and can be economical, if done the right way and
>> without delay (!). If the guy can get 10K, or 15k, miles out of some
>> cheap fix what's wrong with that?
>>
>> M.J.
>>
>>> Jack
>
>
> I think I need about 12K! We'll see! ;)
>
>


From: Retired VIP on 29 Jan 2008 15:36
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:02:27 GMT, "M.J." <M.J.(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Retired VIP" <jackj.extradots.180(a)windstream.net> wrote in message
>news:i3dqp3hq961ql5h896qce4s6marvmukssm(a)4ax.com...
>
>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:44:34 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno(a)ae86.gts> wrote:
>>
>>>OK, 'repairing' the headgaskets on the Subaru. Using some stuff called
>>>Bar's Head gasket repair.
>>
>> Big Bunch Snipped
>>
>> Parden me for asking Mr. Hachiroku but from what you've said you had
>> to do to use this stuff, wouldn't it be faster to just replace the
>> head gasket? Yeah, it would cost more money but then you'd know it
>> was fixed.
>
>There's also some risk associated with the repair- quality of services
>is not always top notch (people encounter various problems associated
>with the repair such as mis-alighnned belt teeth, etc.), also Subaru head
>gaskets can be a nasty re-occuring problem.
>
>I am a great fan of giving patch-up jobs a chance.
>
>They do work many times and can be economical, if done the
>right way and without delay (!). If the guy can get 10K, or
>15k, miles out of some cheap fix what's wrong with that?
>
>M.J.
>
>> Jack
>
I didn't mean to imply that I thought you were doing the wrong thing
in using it. I was just amazed at how much prep work was needed
before you even broke the seal on the can.

There's risk associated with just getting out of bed in the morning,
so that isn't a good reason for using it but cost is. The last time I
pulled a head to replace a head gasket was on a '49 Merc flat-head V8.
That was like pulling the head on my lawn mower. I don't know what
kind of work you'd have in pulling the head on your Subaru.

Jack
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