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"Scott in Florida" <Justtofakeoutliberals(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:20:34 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>
>>
>>"sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>><snipped>
>>>> This is a fact. It's because of the bladder inside the tank,
>>>> primarily.
>>>> It stretches or not to differing degrees, depending on a whole host of
>>>> factors. The result is a bladder that takes more or less fuel each
>>>> time, and virtually never the same amount--even filling from the same
>>>> pump.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bladder? what the Hell is the point of a bladder inside a car gas tank?
>>> Sounds like some bogus environmental feature mandated by the Communist
>>> Republics of California or Massatwoshits.
>>>
>>
>>Bladders are generally used in race cars so that the fuel does not spill
>>if
>>the tank is ruptured in a crash. In the case of the Prius, it is used to
>>reduce the air space in the fuel to reduce evaporative emissions. Here is
>>a
>>good explanation and picture of the bladder:
>>http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/Hybrid13.pdf
>
> How much would it cost to replace that bad boy?
>
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> Scott in Florida
>
> There ought to be one day-- just one--
> when there is open season on senators.
>
> Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)
>

Good question! I have no idea, but I'd guess twice the price of a
conventional tank, partially offset if the vapor recovery equipment is
eliminated.
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Ray O
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From: Ray O on

"Ralph Mowery" <rmowery28146(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>> "GO Mavs" <GoMavs(a)MavvZ.com> wrote in message
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>>>i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the
>>>automatic click..
>>
>> That is a bad habit to get in to. Besides the risk of spills, there is
>> a chance, albeit small, that you can contaminate the charcoal canister
>> from constant overfilling. When the pump clicks off, I just round up to
>> the nearest nickel or dime.
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>> Ray O
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> Some pumps around here disabled the click off function as people have
> pulled the hose out with gas still going.
>
> At the price of gas now I let it click off and then round it up to the
> next dollar. The most it could be is about 1/3 of a gallon. Gas running
> about $ 2.90 a gallon today.
>
> This is the first time I heard the contamination mentioned . Thanks for
> the warning.
>

You're welcome!
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From: Ray O on

"Wickeddoll´┐Ż" <wickeddollNoEffingSpam1958(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" ...
>>
>> "sharx35" ..
>>>
>>> "Ray O" ...
>>>>>
>>>>><snipped>
>>>>>> I think it is illegal to top off in many locations, and many pumps
>>>>>> have warnings not to top off...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, as if anyone pays THOSE warnings any more heed than they do
>>>>> software EULA's or those warnings on DVD's about copying them.
>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray O
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True... I guess those warnings fall into the same category as furniture
>>>> tags :-)
>>>
>>> Up here in Canada, one sometimes sees signs warning to not use cell
>>> phones near the gas pumps. Is there any science to back this up?
>>>
>>>
>> According to snopes.com the answer is no:
>> http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
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>>
>> Ray O
>
> Mythbusters debunked that one too.
>
> Welcome back, Ray!
>
> Natalie
>

Thanks! It's great to be back!
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From: sharx35 on

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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> "Wickeddoll´┐Ż" <wickeddollNoEffingSpam1958(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Ray O" ...
>>>
>>> "sharx35" ..
>>>>
>>>> "Ray O" ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>><snipped>
>>>>>>> I think it is illegal to top off in many locations, and many pumps
>>>>>>> have warnings not to top off...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, as if anyone pays THOSE warnings any more heed than they do
>>>>>> software EULA's or those warnings on DVD's about copying them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ray O
>>>>>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> True... I guess those warnings fall into the same category as
>>>>> furniture tags :-)
>>>>
>>>> Up here in Canada, one sometimes sees signs warning to not use cell
>>>> phones near the gas pumps. Is there any science to back this up?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> According to snopes.com the answer is no:
>>> http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O
>>
>> Mythbusters debunked that one too.
>>
>> Welcome back, Ray!
>>
>> Natalie
>>
>
> Thanks! It's great to be back!

So, how was your vacation?


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> Ray O
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From: Ray O on

"sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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><snippped>
> So, how was your vacation?
>

Great!

My LS430 got between 26 and 28 MPG while cruising at 75 MPH, which is why I
took it instead of the Sequoia.

We caught and ate lots of fish - largemouth & smallmouth bass, walleye, and
northern pike.

We saw a wolf, moose, hawks, loons, and eagles. Some of the local guides
will take one of the fish they caught, whack it in the head, whistle at the
eagle, and toss the fish in the water. The eagles will swoop out of the
trees, grab the fish, and return to their nests. My friend took a series of
pictures that looks like something out of National Geographic.

The only thing we missed this trip were the northern lights and a bear,
which means that we'll have to head back up there again some time!
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