Gas pump accuracy?
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From: sharx35 on 22 Jun 2007 23:38 "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:c0c8d$467c94ab$47c2b532$18552(a)msgid.meganewsservers.com... > > " dbu,." <nsp(a)einp.com> wrote in message > news:nsp-4835D6.18004922062007(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... >> In article <98ebf$467c5217$44a4a10d$12508(a)msgid.meganewsservers.com>, >> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote: >> >>> "GO Mavs" <GoMavs(a)MavvZ.com> wrote in message >>> news:ogYei.1227$yN.942(a)trnddc07... >>> >i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the >>> >automatic click.. >>> >>> That is a bad habit to get in to. Besides the risk of spills, there is >>> a >>> chance, albeit small, that you can contaminate the charcoal canister >>> from >>> constant overfilling. When the pump clicks off, I just round up to the >>> nearest nickel or dime. >> >> GOOOOD advice Ray. I see so many trying to top it off and then >> spilling, wasting fuel, not to mention the flash fire danger. There >> ought to be a law...... > > I think it is illegal to top off in many locations, and many pumps have > warnings not to top off... Yeah, as if anyone pays THOSE warnings any more heed than they do software EULA's or those warnings on DVD's about copying them. > -- > > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) >
From: sharx35 on 22 Jun 2007 23:39 "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:b564$467c94ac$47c2b532$18552(a)msgid.meganewsservers.com... > > <nm5k(a)wt.net> wrote in message > news:1182561120.752303.200850(a)q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> On Jun 22, 4:49 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote: >>> "GO Mavs" <GoM...(a)MavvZ.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:ogYei.1227$yN.942(a)trnddc07... >>> >>> >i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the >>> >automatic click.. >>> >>> That is a bad habit to get in to. Besides the risk of spills, there is >>> a >>> chance, albeit small, that you can contaminate the charcoal canister >>> from >>> constant overfilling. When the pump clicks off, I just round up to the >>> nearest nickel or dime. >>> -- >>> >>> Ray O >>> (correct punctuation to reply) >> >> Yep. That happened to me 3 days after I got mine.. >> Not on purpose though.. I was getting gas and the >> cutoff didn't work right, and it spewed gas all out the >> nozzle, side of the car, etc.. >> Sure nuff, about a day or two later, and the OBD2 light >> is going off.. Checked, and was evap emission problems.. >> >> - P0441 (Evaporative Emission Control System >> Incorrect Purge Flow) >> - P043E (Evaporative Emission System Reference Orifice >> Clog Up) >> - P043F (Evaporative Emission System Reference Orifice >> High Flow) >> - P2401 (Evaporative Emission System Leak Detection >> Pump Control Circuit Low) >> - P2402 (Evaporative Emission System Leak Detection Pump >> Control Circuit High) >> - P2419 (Evaporative Emission System Switching Valve >> Control Circuit Low) >> >> Those were the exact codes on my particular car.. >> I ended up not doing anything about it at that time, as >> it didn't seem to effect runability or mpg. I assumed >> I flooded the canister, which I'm pretty sure it did now. >> It finally dried up, and I haven't had it go off in >> about 7-8 weeks, and maybe 1500? miles later. >> When it was first starting to dry out, the light would go >> off for a while, then get irritable probably due to low >> flow, and come back on for a while. Then finally it went >> out, and has been out since. >> So if anyone floods their canister, I'd wait a while to >> see if it will dry up before doing anything about it.. >> Mine fixed itself, but it took a couple of months.. >> Also, the warmer temps of spring seemed to help >> speed things up. >> When I fill, I click off and very little more. I'm also very >> careful not to get gas in either of the ports inside the >> gas tank compartment. You can see them if you look >> in there. >> MK >> > > Listen to Ray and you can avoid all sorts of problems ;-) > > BTW, most check engine light items will not noticeably affect drivability > or MPG. If the light is flashing, turn off the engine and call for a tow. Thanks for that info--I was almost about to do that when the Check light came on steady after overfilling. > -- > > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) >
From: sharx35 on 22 Jun 2007 23:40 "Wickeddoll�" <wickeddollNoEffingSpam1958(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f5hll0.cg.1(a)news.evilcabal.org... > > "sharx35" ... >> >> "Wickeddoll�" ... >>>> good to know.. guess i wont be topping off anymore... >>>> >>>> >>>> "Ray O" ... >>>>> >>>>> "GO Mavs" ... >>>>>>i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the >>>>>>automatic click.. >>>>> >>>>> That is a bad habit to get in to. Besides the risk of spills, there >>>>> is a chance, albeit small, that you can contaminate the charcoal >>>>> canister from constant overfilling. When the pump clicks off, I just >>>>> round up to the nearest nickel or dime. >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Ray O >>> >>> I never topped off, anyway. Seemed kind of obsessive-compulsive to me. >>> >>> Natalie >>> >> >> Heh, heh, like *having* to get the last 1/4 inch in!! <<fwap>> <<fwap>> >> >> >> > Feh- who can feel a measly quarter inch?! > > Natalie At your service (cervix) ma'am! Delighted (dilated) I'm sure! > >
From: sharx35 on 22 Jun 2007 23:40 "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:37e58$467c94ac$47c2b532$18552(a)msgid.meganewsservers.com... > > "sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:BTYei.8758$tB5.3454(a)edtnps90... > <snipped> >>> This is a fact. It's because of the bladder inside the tank, primarily. >>> It stretches or not to differing degrees, depending on a whole host of >>> factors. The result is a bladder that takes more or less fuel each >>> time, and virtually never the same amount--even filling from the same >>> pump. >>> >> >> Bladder? what the Hell is the point of a bladder inside a car gas tank? >> Sounds like some bogus environmental feature mandated by the Communist >> Republics of California or Massatwoshits. >> > > Bladders are generally used in race cars so that the fuel does not spill > if the tank is ruptured in a crash. In the case of the Prius, it is used > to reduce the air space in the fuel to reduce evaporative emissions. Here > is a good explanation and picture of the bladder: > http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/Hybrid13.pdf > -- > > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) > Thank you, Ray, for that information. Who says I am unteachable?
From: Ray O on 23 Jun 2007 01:00
"sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:IA0fi.8800$tB5.8459(a)edtnps90... > ><snipped> >> I think it is illegal to top off in many locations, and many pumps have >> warnings not to top off... > > Yeah, as if anyone pays THOSE warnings any more heed than they do software > EULA's or those warnings on DVD's about copying them. > >> -- >> >> Ray O >> (correct punctuation to reply) >> > True... I guess those warnings fall into the same category as furniture tags :-) -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |