From: sharx35 on

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:c0c8d$467c94ab$47c2b532$18552(a)msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>
> " dbu,." <nsp(a)einp.com> wrote in message
> news:nsp-4835D6.18004922062007(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> In article <98ebf$467c5217$44a4a10d$12508(a)msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>>
>>> "GO Mavs" <GoMavs(a)MavvZ.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ogYei.1227$yN.942(a)trnddc07...
>>> >i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the
>>> >automatic click..
>>>
>>> That is a bad habit to get in to. Besides the risk of spills, there is
>>> a
>>> chance, albeit small, that you can contaminate the charcoal canister
>>> from
>>> constant overfilling. When the pump clicks off, I just round up to the
>>> nearest nickel or dime.
>>
>> GOOOOD advice Ray. I see so many trying to top it off and then
>> spilling, wasting fuel, not to mention the flash fire danger. There
>> ought to be a law......
>
> I think it is illegal to top off in many locations, and many pumps have
> warnings not to top off...

Yeah, as if anyone pays THOSE warnings any more heed than they do software
EULA's or those warnings on DVD's about copying them.

> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>


From: sharx35 on

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:b564$467c94ac$47c2b532$18552(a)msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>
> <nm5k(a)wt.net> wrote in message
> news:1182561120.752303.200850(a)q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 22, 4:49 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>>> "GO Mavs" <GoM...(a)MavvZ.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:ogYei.1227$yN.942(a)trnddc07...
>>>
>>> >i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the
>>> >automatic click..
>>>
>>> That is a bad habit to get in to. Besides the risk of spills, there is
>>> a
>>> chance, albeit small, that you can contaminate the charcoal canister
>>> from
>>> constant overfilling. When the pump clicks off, I just round up to the
>>> nearest nickel or dime.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O
>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>> Yep. That happened to me 3 days after I got mine..
>> Not on purpose though.. I was getting gas and the
>> cutoff didn't work right, and it spewed gas all out the
>> nozzle, side of the car, etc..
>> Sure nuff, about a day or two later, and the OBD2 light
>> is going off.. Checked, and was evap emission problems..
>>
>> - P0441 (Evaporative Emission Control System
>> Incorrect Purge Flow)
>> - P043E (Evaporative Emission System Reference Orifice
>> Clog Up)
>> - P043F (Evaporative Emission System Reference Orifice
>> High Flow)
>> - P2401 (Evaporative Emission System Leak Detection
>> Pump Control Circuit Low)
>> - P2402 (Evaporative Emission System Leak Detection Pump
>> Control Circuit High)
>> - P2419 (Evaporative Emission System Switching Valve
>> Control Circuit Low)
>>
>> Those were the exact codes on my particular car..
>> I ended up not doing anything about it at that time, as
>> it didn't seem to effect runability or mpg. I assumed
>> I flooded the canister, which I'm pretty sure it did now.
>> It finally dried up, and I haven't had it go off in
>> about 7-8 weeks, and maybe 1500? miles later.
>> When it was first starting to dry out, the light would go
>> off for a while, then get irritable probably due to low
>> flow, and come back on for a while. Then finally it went
>> out, and has been out since.
>> So if anyone floods their canister, I'd wait a while to
>> see if it will dry up before doing anything about it..
>> Mine fixed itself, but it took a couple of months..
>> Also, the warmer temps of spring seemed to help
>> speed things up.
>> When I fill, I click off and very little more. I'm also very
>> careful not to get gas in either of the ports inside the
>> gas tank compartment. You can see them if you look
>> in there.
>> MK
>>
>
> Listen to Ray and you can avoid all sorts of problems ;-)
>
> BTW, most check engine light items will not noticeably affect drivability
> or MPG. If the light is flashing, turn off the engine and call for a tow.

Thanks for that info--I was almost about to do that when the Check light
came on steady after overfilling.

> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>


From: sharx35 on

"Wickeddoll´┐Ż" <wickeddollNoEffingSpam1958(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f5hll0.cg.1(a)news.evilcabal.org...
>
> "sharx35" ...
>>
>> "Wickeddoll´┐Ż" ...
>>>> good to know.. guess i wont be topping off anymore...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ray O" ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "GO Mavs" ...
>>>>>>i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the
>>>>>>automatic click..
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a bad habit to get in to. Besides the risk of spills, there
>>>>> is a chance, albeit small, that you can contaminate the charcoal
>>>>> canister from constant overfilling. When the pump clicks off, I just
>>>>> round up to the nearest nickel or dime.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray O
>>>
>>> I never topped off, anyway. Seemed kind of obsessive-compulsive to me.
>>>
>>> Natalie
>>>
>>
>> Heh, heh, like *having* to get the last 1/4 inch in!! <<fwap>> <<fwap>>
>>
>>
>>
> Feh- who can feel a measly quarter inch?!
>
> Natalie

At your service (cervix) ma'am! Delighted (dilated) I'm sure!


>
>


From: sharx35 on

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:37e58$467c94ac$47c2b532$18552(a)msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>
> "sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:BTYei.8758$tB5.3454(a)edtnps90...
> <snipped>
>>> This is a fact. It's because of the bladder inside the tank, primarily.
>>> It stretches or not to differing degrees, depending on a whole host of
>>> factors. The result is a bladder that takes more or less fuel each
>>> time, and virtually never the same amount--even filling from the same
>>> pump.
>>>
>>
>> Bladder? what the Hell is the point of a bladder inside a car gas tank?
>> Sounds like some bogus environmental feature mandated by the Communist
>> Republics of California or Massatwoshits.
>>
>
> Bladders are generally used in race cars so that the fuel does not spill
> if the tank is ruptured in a crash. In the case of the Prius, it is used
> to reduce the air space in the fuel to reduce evaporative emissions. Here
> is a good explanation and picture of the bladder:
> http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/Hybrid13.pdf
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>

Thank you, Ray, for that information. Who says I am unteachable?



From: Ray O on

"sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IA0fi.8800$tB5.8459(a)edtnps90...
>
><snipped>
>> I think it is illegal to top off in many locations, and many pumps have
>> warnings not to top off...
>
> Yeah, as if anyone pays THOSE warnings any more heed than they do software
> EULA's or those warnings on DVD's about copying them.
>
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>

True... I guess those warnings fall into the same category as furniture tags
:-)
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)