From: ncabell@mix.wvu.edu on
Where is Toyota's Diesel engine???????

From: Jack Snodgrass on
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:07:15 -0700, "ncabell wrote:

> Where is Toyota's Diesel engine???????

Down Under - Australia

See:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t147075.html

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jack - Grapevine/Richardson
From: Ken Shelton on
ncabell(a)mix.wvu.edu wrote:
> Where is Toyota's Diesel engine???????
>
1) Putting a diesel engine into a truck requires re-engineering the
truck and engine and transmission so the truck can carry the extra
weight and handle the extra torque. This takes time and million$.
2) A diesel engine light enough for a 1/2-ton truck is likely to be
too low in power to sell well.

I'd like to see light, powerful diesel engines in Toyota Tundras and
maybe in Tacomas if the power to weight ratio is satisfactory. I'd
really like to see a 1-ton Tundra with a diesel engine putting out
350+ hp and 650+ lbs-ft of torque.


Ken
From: Mike Harris on
<ncabell(a)mix.wvu.edu> wrote in message
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> Where is Toyota's Diesel engine???????

Right where you'd expect - under the bonnet, just like the gasoline engine.
If you want one you'll have to buy a model somewhere other than the United
States. Go to http://www.toyota.co.uk and click on "Hilux" for details.

N.B. if you happen to buy one, remember that they're dyslexic over there
about what side of the road is for tailgaiting and which side is for head-on
collisions. Your passenger will have to do all of the driving as the wheel
and all the pedals are on that side of the truck.

Be thankful you don't order one from Australia which has all that and must
be driven upside down as well.
--
Mike Harris
Austin, TX


From: Mike Harris on
"Ken Shelton" <shelton(a)cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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> ncabell(a)mix.wvu.edu wrote:
>> Where is Toyota's Diesel engine???????
>>
> 1) Putting a diesel engine into a truck requires re-engineering the truck
> and engine and transmission so the truck can carry the extra weight and
> handle the extra torque. This takes time and million$.
> 2) A diesel engine light enough for a 1/2-ton truck is likely to be too
> low in power to sell well.
>
> I'd like to see light, powerful diesel engines in Toyota Tundras and maybe
> in Tacomas if the power to weight ratio is satisfactory. I'd really like
> to see a 1-ton Tundra with a diesel engine putting out 350+ hp and 650+
> lbs-ft of torque.
>


As to point one, not true. Most components are taken from a suite of "off
the shelf" items rather than engineered individually for each application.
I would imagine that the diesel Toyotas sold overseas have exactly the same
drivetrain and suspension components as the equvalent gasoline powered
model. Where components need to be heavier they are likely "borrowed" from
a heavier truck line.

Your expectations in the second paragraph prove point two in your first
paragraph. Buyers of most light trucks don't need the HP and torque you
state, especially not with the weight penalty. This is well understood
overseas but American buyers expect their diesel engines to be able to
haul... well, just about anything.
--
Mike Harris
Austin, TX