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From: Scotty on 26 Jul 2006 05:32 <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:5v6dc2lplrs4op1lt7bdksc52rvb502d9m(a)4ax.com... > "Mike Harris" <harrisremovethiswest(a)sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > >>Go to http://www.toyota.co.uk and click on "Hilux" for details. > > Why has the HiLux never been available in the US? Umm dont you can em Tundras? or Tacomas or somthing like that. For Toyota deisel questions try AUS.CARS.OFFROAD newsgroup. Or for non 4x4 AUS.CARS but take info from that NG with a pinch of salt. Some of the posters there wouldnt know a petrol from a deisel engine.
From: sidneybek on 26 Jul 2006 06:50 ncabell(a)mix.wvu.edu wrote: > Where is Toyota's Diesel engine??????? The links below have everything you ever wanted to know about Toyota diesel & biodiesel pickups: The way the price of gasoline (petrol for Australians) is going I suggest that everyone convert their Toyotas to diesel as they are more: fuel efficient higher torque waterproof simpler reliable safer can idle all day long less overheat episodes can burn bio diesel or vegetable oil (without glycerin) Well to help everyone dismiss the myth that Toyota diesel pickups & SUV's are rare in USA & Canada I have included below a list of very resourcefull links that contain places to buy diesel engines/parts and complete rigs. Toyota diesel engines models: 2L's, 2L-T's, 3L's and 5L 's for sale in the greater Los Angeles area: Engine Trend Inc George 4515 S.Soto Street Los Angeles,CA 90058 USA Ph:1-800-939-3295 Ph:(323) 589-2844 http://www.enginetrend.com Spector Offroad Marv 21600 Nordhoff St Chatsworth,CA 91311 USA Ph:(818) 882-1238 http://www.sor.com Reseda Engines in Northridge Danny 8644 Darby Ave Northridge,CA 91325 USA Ph:(818) 349-7472 Jarco USA 194 Gateway Dr Canton,Georgia 30115 USA Ph:(770) 479-4942 Fax:(770) 479-4948 Operator:James Stettler http://www.jarcoinc.com E-mail:info(a)jarcoinc.com E-mail:parts(a)jarcoinc.com E-mail:halfcuts(a)jarcoinc.com E-mail:specials(a)jarcoinc.com [url]http://www.asapmotors.com/services/toyota-diesel-engine.htm For Japanese imported diesel Toyota SUV's & pickup trucks: http://www.uniqueautoimports.com http://www.mustang.bc.ca/lc.htm http://www.outbackimports.ca/index.html http://www.luxuryimports.ca/vehicles/toyotaforsale.php http://www.risingsunimports.ca/ http://www.hj61.com/ http://www.jns-imports.com/importinfo/ http://www.batfa.com/usedvehicles-toyota-stock.html http://www.geocities.jp/kktrading_aurora/ These are 11 Toyota DIESEL 4-Runner/pickup discussion sites: http://www.sr5.net/bbs/index.html http://www.toyotadiesel.com/phpBB2 http://www.toyotadiesel.com http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyotadieselclub http://pub12.ezboard.com/btoyotasurfdownunder http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/forum http://groups.msn.com/toyotasurf/shoebox.msnw http://www.yotasurf.com/forums/index.php? http://www.yotasurf.co.uk/forums/index.php http://www.offroadpakistan.com/forums/viewforum.php?id=8 http://clean4x4.com http://jplan.com/cgi-bin/tractor/forum.pl?category=TOY&catname=Toyota%20Pickup%20Trucks http://www.biodieselsolutions.ca/ This is a great video from Top Gear featuring a 1985 Toyota 2L Hilux diesel that is put through some astonishing torture tests in an attempt to "break it". Windows Media 51.3mb - 20mins 28secs running time http://stan.cc.swin.edu.au/~jeff/cars/Top%20Gear%20Toyota%20Hilux%20-%20Unbreakable.wmv http://finalgear.com/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/prog28/toyota.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/hilux_broadband.ram http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/lotus_vs_apache_narrowband.ram http://toyotadiesel.com/uploads/videos/topgear1.WMV http://toyotadiesel.com/uploads/videos/topgear2.WMV http://toyotadiesel.com/uploads/videos/toyota%20hilux%20diesel.mov http://www.yankeetoys.org/documents/full.mov http://http.dvlabs.com/adcritic/t/o/y/toyota-tacoma-girlfriend.mov http://media.putfile.com/Top-Gear---06x01---2005adot05 Sidney® ? Repairs tv's,vcr's,home/car audio out of my home E-mail:sidneybek(a)yahoo.com Dartmouth,Nova Scotia Canada 1985 Toyota 4-Runner,solid front straight axle,factory cruise control,sunroof,22R-E,W56,RN60LV-MSEK,rusted rear step/towing chrome bumper with 250 000 KM
From: Mike Harris on 26 Jul 2006 10:15 Thanks for the post, Sidney - that's a keeper. -- Mike Harris Austin, TX <sidneybek(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1153911008.466918.152630(a)p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... ncabell(a)mix.wvu.edu wrote: > Where is Toyota's Diesel engine??????? The links below have everything you ever wanted to know about Toyota diesel & biodiesel pickups: The way the price of gasoline (petrol for Australians) is going I suggest that everyone convert their Toyotas to diesel as they are more: fuel efficient higher torque waterproof simpler reliable safer can idle all day long less overheat episodes can burn bio diesel or vegetable oil (without glycerin) Well to help everyone dismiss the myth that Toyota diesel pickups & SUV's are rare in USA & Canada I have included below a list of very resourcefull links that contain places to buy diesel engines/parts and complete rigs. Toyota diesel engines models: 2L's, 2L-T's, 3L's and 5L 's for sale in the greater Los Angeles area: Engine Trend Inc George 4515 S.Soto Street Los Angeles,CA 90058 USA Ph:1-800-939-3295 Ph:(323) 589-2844 http://www.enginetrend.com Spector Offroad Marv 21600 Nordhoff St Chatsworth,CA 91311 USA Ph:(818) 882-1238 http://www.sor.com Reseda Engines in Northridge Danny 8644 Darby Ave Northridge,CA 91325 USA Ph:(818) 349-7472 Jarco USA 194 Gateway Dr Canton,Georgia 30115 USA Ph:(770) 479-4942 Fax:(770) 479-4948 Operator:James Stettler http://www.jarcoinc.com E-mail:info(a)jarcoinc.com E-mail:parts(a)jarcoinc.com E-mail:halfcuts(a)jarcoinc.com E-mail:specials(a)jarcoinc.com [url]http://www.asapmotors.com/services/toyota-diesel-engine.htm For Japanese imported diesel Toyota SUV's & pickup trucks: http://www.uniqueautoimports.com http://www.mustang.bc.ca/lc.htm http://www.outbackimports.ca/index.html http://www.luxuryimports.ca/vehicles/toyotaforsale.php http://www.risingsunimports.ca/ http://www.hj61.com/ http://www.jns-imports.com/importinfo/ http://www.batfa.com/usedvehicles-toyota-stock.html http://www.geocities.jp/kktrading_aurora/ These are 11 Toyota DIESEL 4-Runner/pickup discussion sites: http://www.sr5.net/bbs/index.html http://www.toyotadiesel.com/phpBB2 http://www.toyotadiesel.com http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyotadieselclub http://pub12.ezboard.com/btoyotasurfdownunder http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/forum http://groups.msn.com/toyotasurf/shoebox.msnw http://www.yotasurf.com/forums/index.php? http://www.yotasurf.co.uk/forums/index.php http://www.offroadpakistan.com/forums/viewforum.php?id=8 http://clean4x4.com http://jplan.com/cgi-bin/tractor/forum.pl?category=TOY&catname=Toyota%20Pickup%20Trucks http://www.biodieselsolutions.ca/ This is a great video from Top Gear featuring a 1985 Toyota 2L Hilux diesel that is put through some astonishing torture tests in an attempt to "break it". Windows Media 51.3mb - 20mins 28secs running time http://stan.cc.swin.edu.au/~jeff/cars/Top%20Gear%20Toyota%20Hilux%20-%20Unbreakable.wmv http://finalgear.com/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/prog28/toyota.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/hilux_broadband.ram http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/lotus_vs_apache_narrowband.ram http://toyotadiesel.com/uploads/videos/topgear1.WMV http://toyotadiesel.com/uploads/videos/topgear2.WMV http://toyotadiesel.com/uploads/videos/toyota%20hilux%20diesel.mov http://www.yankeetoys.org/documents/full.mov http://http.dvlabs.com/adcritic/t/o/y/toyota-tacoma-girlfriend.mov http://media.putfile.com/Top-Gear---06x01---2005adot05 Sidney T Repairs tv's,vcr's,home/car audio out of my home E-mail:sidneybek(a)yahoo.com Dartmouth,Nova Scotia Canada 1985 Toyota 4-Runner,solid front straight axle,factory cruise control,sunroof,22R-E,W56,RN60LV-MSEK,rusted rear step/towing chrome bumper with 250 000 KM
From: Bruce L. Bergman on 26 Jul 2006 10:42 On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:28:11 +1000, "Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote: >"Ken Shelton" <shelton(a)cablespeed.com> wrote in message >news:ip-dnXaF4od-pFvZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d(a)cablespeedwa.com... >> ncabell(a)mix.wvu.edu wrote: >>> Where is Toyota's Diesel engine??????? >>> >> 1) Putting a diesel engine into a truck requires re-engineering the truck >> and engine and transmission so the truck can carry the extra weight and >> handle the extra torque. This takes time and million$. >> 2) A diesel engine light enough for a 1/2-ton truck is likely to be too >> low in power to sell well. >> >> I'd like to see light, powerful diesel engines in Toyota Tundras and maybe >> in Tacomas if the power to weight ratio is satisfactory. I'd really like >> to see a 1-ton Tundra with a diesel engine putting out 350+ hp and 650+ >> lbs-ft of torque. > >Hmm, my last deisel was a Turboed 3.0 litre Toyota and that was plenty >powerful enough. In fact that was as fast as my 3.0litre VZE petrol. Yes, but you're in Oz where there aren't any Emissions Nannies screaming that 'the particulates from diesel smoke are going to kill us all'. The USA has to put up with legislators "helping" us... We have lots of these things called mountains, some of them get quite tall, and lots of people live on one side and work on the other. Getting up and over on the same day becomes important... ;-) And even with a Turbo, a 3.0 diesel is a touch on the light side for the USA'n tastes for "powerful" - remember the muscle-car craze of the 60's? Dodge sticking a 440cid 6-pack in a midsize Dart?. We might not use it all every day, but we want a healthy reserve for passing and accident avoidance. (And for cutting off idiots trying to pass on the right shoulder...) Hopefully the ultra-low sulfur diesel reformulation they are doing this year will get some more diesel car and truck choices on the market in the next few. --<< Bruce >>--
From: Bruce L. Bergman on 27 Jul 2006 01:21 On 26 Jul 2006 03:50:08 -0700, sidneybek(a)yahoo.com wrote: >ncabell(a)mix.wvu.edu wrote: >> Where is Toyota's Diesel engine??????? > >The links below have everything you ever wanted to know about Toyota >diesel & biodiesel pickups: > >The way the price of gasoline (petrol for Australians) is going I >suggest that everyone convert their Toyotas to diesel as they are more: > >fuel efficient >higher torque >waterproof >simpler >reliable >safer >can idle all day long >less overheat episodes >can burn bio diesel or vegetable oil (without glycerin) > >Well to help everyone dismiss the myth that Toyota diesel pickups & >SUV's are rare in USA & Canada I have included below a list of very >resourcefull links that contain places to buy diesel engines/parts and >complete rigs. If your quantity of "not rare" in the USA is a few hundred in the entire country, you're fine. My quantity of "not rare" would be above the 10,000 to 25,000 vehicle range, and there isn't anywhere near that. They are not as rare in Canada, since their emissions and safety regulations were less stringent. They were sold new at the dealers up until the 1990's, from what I can tell - my search at toyota.ca found absolutely no mention of any new diesel models. But they ARE very rare in the US if you want to buy a new car, SUV or light truck at a Toyota dealer. At the moment, they offer none, and they haven't for probably 20 years. http://www.toyota.com/about/environment/technology/2005/engines/Whats-Next.pdf The interesting part about this one: http://www.toyota.com/about/environment/technology/2005/engines/Well-To-Wheel.pdf If Diesel is a significant incremental step more efficient on a 'Well to Wheel' basis, why aren't they building a Prius Hybrid Diesel? With all that sophisticated electronic engine management trickery (DMNR) and squeezing a gallon of #2 till it screams for mercy? And converting a vehicle over from gasoline to diesel certainly can be done, and the parts are available (in modest quantities). But it is by no means either an easy or simple job, and it's best left to those with a lot of experience wrenching on cars. If you have to pay that person to change your car over, it will quickly eat up your fuel savings for many years ahead. It's a bare minimum of 100 man-hours of solid work to do a car conversion right, and that's after you've tracked down all the myriad bits and pieces you will need. Major modifications have to be made to almost every system on the car - fuel tanks changed, fuel lines changed, emissions systems, motor mounts, transmission, driveshafts shortened or lengthened, third-member changed (if the final drive ratio is wrong for the application) electrical (two batteries not optional), HVAC (the hoses won't reach if the compressor mounts on the opposite side) Instrument Cluster and wiring harness, etc. You will need heavier front springs or torsion bars. Even stupid stuff like the throttle pedal needs to be changed, because you need the one with the 'THROTTLE' (fast idle) pull knob if you don't have electronic engine management for idle regulation. No, it makes much more economic sense to have the factory design and mass-produce the vehicles /as/ diesels, and that keeps the costs in line. And you don't have to worry about legalities, the car manufacturer got that all worked out before they sold it to you. Plus, if they are sold new they will establish a parts cache at the regional warehouses, and train and equip mechanics at the dealerships. Right now, if your home conversion or Gray-market vehicle breaks you have to search out a diesel mechanic that may or may not be familiar with that engine, and all but the simplest repairs will involve a long wait for parts. And even 2 days waiting for air-freight will seem like an eternity if your vacation is being interrupted... >Toyota diesel engines models: 2L's, 2L-T's, 3L's and 5L 's for sale >in the greater Los Angeles area: Used, Gray Market import vehicles from Canada, Europe and Asia. The older ones are no problem, but anything newer than about 20 years are supposed to be retrofitted with all the side intrusion door beams, heavier bumpers, 3-point seatbelts, and other safety stuff the USA requires. Now if you buy the car in good faith that the work was done, but the Feds decide to check and find out that the importer lied on all the paperwork that said all this expensive reinforcement and retrofit work had been done, they might insist you get the work done yourself, export the vehicle back out of the USA - or turn over the vehicle for crushing... No, there are WAY too many worms in that can for my taste. --<< Bruce >>--
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