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From: B A R R Y on 27 Jul 2006 11:23
me(a)privacy.net wrote:

>
> Why has the HiLux never been available in the US?

It was, in the '70's...


From: Bubba on 28 Jul 2006 14:02
Toyota diesel trucks are abundant everywhere throughout the world except in
the US. They are well designed efficient vehicles as is the Toyota
standard.

Bubba


From: M. Cantera on 5 Aug 2006 17:34
The EPA will not let you have one. End of Story.

If you want a Diesel truck in the US, you need to buy a commercial
truck (not alight truck like a Tundra).

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:21:09 GMT, Bruce L. Bergman
<blPYTHONbergman(a)earthlink.invalid> wrote:

>On 26 Jul 2006 03:50:08 -0700, sidneybek(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>>ncabell(a)mix.wvu.edu wrote:
>
>>> Where is Toyota's Diesel engine???????
>>
>>The links below have everything you ever wanted to know about Toyota
>>diesel & biodiesel pickups:
>>
>>The way the price of gasoline (petrol for Australians) is going I
>>suggest that everyone convert their Toyotas to diesel as they are more:
>>
>>fuel efficient
>>higher torque
>>waterproof
>>simpler
>>reliable
>>safer
>>can idle all day long
>>less overheat episodes
>>can burn bio diesel or vegetable oil (without glycerin)
>>
>>Well to help everyone dismiss the myth that Toyota diesel pickups &
>>SUV's are rare in USA & Canada I have included below a list of very
>>resourcefull links that contain places to buy diesel engines/parts and
>>complete rigs.
>
> If your quantity of "not rare" in the USA is a few hundred in the
>entire country, you're fine. My quantity of "not rare" would be above
>the 10,000 to 25,000 vehicle range, and there isn't anywhere near
>that.
>
> They are not as rare in Canada, since their emissions and safety
>regulations were less stringent. They were sold new at the dealers up
>until the 1990's, from what I can tell - my search at toyota.ca found
>absolutely no mention of any new diesel models.
>
> But they ARE very rare in the US if you want to buy a new car, SUV
>or light truck at a Toyota dealer. At the moment, they offer none,
>and they haven't for probably 20 years.
>
>http://www.toyota.com/about/environment/technology/2005/engines/Whats-Next.pdf
>
>The interesting part about this one:
>http://www.toyota.com/about/environment/technology/2005/engines/Well-To-Wheel.pdf
>
> If Diesel is a significant incremental step more efficient on a
>'Well to Wheel' basis, why aren't they building a Prius Hybrid Diesel?
>With all that sophisticated electronic engine management trickery
>(DMNR) and squeezing a gallon of #2 till it screams for mercy?
>
> And converting a vehicle over from gasoline to diesel certainly can
>be done, and the parts are available (in modest quantities). But it
>is by no means either an easy or simple job, and it's best left to
>those with a lot of experience wrenching on cars. If you have to pay
>that person to change your car over, it will quickly eat up your fuel
>savings for many years ahead.
>
> It's a bare minimum of 100 man-hours of solid work to do a car
>conversion right, and that's after you've tracked down all the myriad
>bits and pieces you will need. Major modifications have to be made to
>almost every system on the car - fuel tanks changed, fuel lines
>changed, emissions systems, motor mounts, transmission, driveshafts
>shortened or lengthened, third-member changed (if the final drive
>ratio is wrong for the application) electrical (two batteries not
>optional), HVAC (the hoses won't reach if the compressor mounts on the
>opposite side) Instrument Cluster and wiring harness, etc. You will
>need heavier front springs or torsion bars.
>
> Even stupid stuff like the throttle pedal needs to be changed,
>because you need the one with the 'THROTTLE' (fast idle) pull knob if
>you don't have electronic engine management for idle regulation.
>
> No, it makes much more economic sense to have the factory design and
>mass-produce the vehicles /as/ diesels, and that keeps the costs in
>line. And you don't have to worry about legalities, the car
>manufacturer got that all worked out before they sold it to you.
>
> Plus, if they are sold new they will establish a parts cache at the
>regional warehouses, and train and equip mechanics at the dealerships.
>
> Right now, if your home conversion or Gray-market vehicle breaks you
>have to search out a diesel mechanic that may or may not be familiar
>with that engine, and all but the simplest repairs will involve a long
>wait for parts. And even 2 days waiting for air-freight will seem
>like an eternity if your vacation is being interrupted...
>
>>Toyota diesel engines models: 2L's, 2L-T's, 3L's and 5L 's for sale
>>in the greater Los Angeles area:
>
> Used, Gray Market import vehicles from Canada, Europe and Asia. The
>older ones are no problem, but anything newer than about 20 years are
>supposed to be retrofitted with all the side intrusion door beams,
>heavier bumpers, 3-point seatbelts, and other safety stuff the USA
>requires.
>
> Now if you buy the car in good faith that the work was done, but the
>Feds decide to check and find out that the importer lied on all the
>paperwork that said all this expensive reinforcement and retrofit work
>had been done, they might insist you get the work done yourself,
>export the vehicle back out of the USA - or turn over the vehicle for
>crushing...
>
> No, there are WAY too many worms in that can for my taste.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--

From: Jeff Olsen on 14 Aug 2006 01:55
Wow. The king of information hath spoken!

-jeff


sidneybek(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> ncabell(a)mix.wvu.edu wrote:
> > Where is Toyota's Diesel engine???????
>
> The links below have everything you ever wanted to know about Toyota
> diesel & biodiesel pickups:
>
> The way the price of gasoline (petrol for Australians) is going I
> suggest that everyone convert their Toyotas to diesel as they are more:
>
> fuel efficient
> higher torque
> waterproof
> simpler
> reliable
> safer
> can idle all day long
> less overheat episodes
> can burn bio diesel or vegetable oil (without glycerin)
>
> Well to help everyone dismiss the myth that Toyota diesel pickups &
> SUV's are rare in USA & Canada I have included below a list of very
> resourcefull links that contain places to buy diesel engines/parts and
> complete rigs.
>
> Toyota diesel engines models: 2L's, 2L-T's, 3L's and 5L 's for sale
> in the greater Los Angeles area:
>
> Engine Trend Inc
> George
> 4515 S.Soto Street
> Los Angeles,CA 90058
> USA
> Ph:1-800-939-3295
> Ph:(323) 589-2844
> http://www.enginetrend.com
>
> Spector Offroad
> Marv
> 21600 Nordhoff St
> Chatsworth,CA 91311
> USA
> Ph:(818) 882-1238
> http://www.sor.com
>
> Reseda Engines in Northridge
> Danny
> 8644 Darby Ave
> Northridge,CA 91325
> USA
> Ph:(818) 349-7472
>
> Jarco USA
> 194 Gateway Dr
> Canton,Georgia 30115
> USA
> Ph:(770) 479-4942
> Fax:(770) 479-4948
> Operator:James Stettler
> http://www.jarcoinc.com
> E-mail:info(a)jarcoinc.com
> E-mail:parts(a)jarcoinc.com
> E-mail:halfcuts(a)jarcoinc.com
> E-mail:specials(a)jarcoinc.com
> [url]http://www.asapmotors.com/services/toyota-diesel-engine.htm
>
> For Japanese imported diesel Toyota SUV's & pickup trucks:
>
> http://www.uniqueautoimports.com
> http://www.mustang.bc.ca/lc.htm
> http://www.outbackimports.ca/index.html
> http://www.luxuryimports.ca/vehicles/toyotaforsale.php
> http://www.risingsunimports.ca/
> http://www.hj61.com/
> http://www.jns-imports.com/importinfo/
> http://www.batfa.com/usedvehicles-toyota-stock.html
> http://www.geocities.jp/kktrading_aurora/
>
> These are 11 Toyota DIESEL 4-Runner/pickup discussion sites:
>
> http://www.sr5.net/bbs/index.html
> http://www.toyotadiesel.com/phpBB2
> http://www.toyotadiesel.com
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyotadieselclub
> http://pub12.ezboard.com/btoyotasurfdownunder
> http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/forum
> http://groups.msn.com/toyotasurf/shoebox.msnw
> http://www.yotasurf.com/forums/index.php?
> http://www.yotasurf.co.uk/forums/index.php
> http://www.offroadpakistan.com/forums/viewforum.php?id=8
> http://clean4x4.com
> http://jplan.com/cgi-bin/tractor/forum.pl?category=TOY&catname=Toyota%20Pickup%20Trucks
> http://www.biodieselsolutions.ca/
>
> This is a great video from Top Gear featuring a 1985 Toyota 2L Hilux
> diesel that is put through some astonishing torture tests in an attempt
> to "break it".
>
> Windows Media
> 51.3mb - 20mins 28secs running time
>
> http://stan.cc.swin.edu.au/~jeff/cars/Top%20Gear%20Toyota%20Hilux%20-%20Unbreakable.wmv
>
>
> http://finalgear.com/
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/prog28/toyota.shtml
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/hilux_broadband.ram
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/lotus_vs_apache_narrowband.ram
> http://toyotadiesel.com/uploads/videos/topgear1.WMV
> http://toyotadiesel.com/uploads/videos/topgear2.WMV
>
> http://toyotadiesel.com/uploads/videos/toyota%20hilux%20diesel.mov
> http://www.yankeetoys.org/documents/full.mov
> http://http.dvlabs.com/adcritic/t/o/y/toyota-tacoma-girlfriend.mov
> http://media.putfile.com/Top-Gear---06x01---2005adot05
>
> Sidney® ?
> Repairs tv's,vcr's,home/car audio out of my home
> E-mail:sidneybek(a)yahoo.com
> Dartmouth,Nova Scotia
> Canada
> 1985 Toyota 4-Runner,solid front straight axle,factory cruise
> control,sunroof,22R-E,W56,RN60LV-MSEK,rusted rear step/towing chrome
> bumper with 250 000 KM

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