From: Neo on
On Jun 9, 11:32 pm, Davoud <s...(a)sky.net> wrote:
> Neo:
>
> > The value of the front air dam under a car bumper is  that it lower
> > wind resistance at high speed ( >40 mph)
> > [and they look super cool ]
>
> If you think that air dams look "super cool," you can't possibly be old
> enough to drive a car. Cool is here, and it ain't got no stinkin' air
> dam
> <http://www.bangshift.com/gallery/World-Class-426-Hemi-Powered-32-Ford-R
> oadster-gallery.html>.

Oh heavens no!
that would be like Roseann O'Donnell in a bikini...

It seems to me the Prius designers were
more influence by the Import Tuner crowd in Japan.

>
> > The limitation of a front air dam under a car bumper is that it
> > reduces the road clearance and is suspectible to damage on irregular
> > road surfaces ( e.g. pot holes).
>
> Bzzzzzzt! It's high curbs. Most of us don't drive all that much in
> Pennsylvania for potholes to be a factor.
>
> Davoud


Yes.
Curbs are more of a problem than potholes.



From: News on
Peter Granzeau wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:08:32 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>
>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:12:56 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:17:35 -0400, greenpjs(a)neo.rr.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:32:54 -0400, Davoud <star(a)sky.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bzzzzzzt! It's high curbs. Most of us don't drive all that much in
>>>>>>> Pennsylvania for potholes to be a factor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Davoud
>>>>> >From my experience, they mostly strike high parking space curbs.
>>>>>> Regardless, I have never had to replace one. What is the OP doing to
>>>>>> completely destroy it so often?
>>>>> The OP (that's me) parks in designated "Handicapped" spaces, which
>>>>> usually have one of those small(ish) curbs to keep one from knocking
>>>>> down the "Handicapped" sign. he one that got me this time had a bolt
>>>>> sticking about 2" higher than the curb itself, intended to keep the curb
>>>>> in place, but it got me in the air dam and tore it off.
>>>> With respect, have you had your eyesight checked lately?
>>> The curb piece is invisible (below line of sight) when pulling in to the
>>> parking place.
>>
>> With respect, if you missed seeing "a bolt sticking about 2" higher than
>> the curb itself, intended to keep the curbin place, but it got me in the
>> air dam and tore it off", then you need to either be more aware or have
>> your eyes checked.
>
> I can see the bolt when I start to park. I can not tell when the bumper
> gets near it because it is by then below my line of sight. There are no
> index markings on the pavement to either side showing me where the curb
> is. If it were a real curb/gutter, I would have no problems at all. The
> entire piece of concrete is hidden be the front of my Prius when I pull
> into the parking place.
>
> My eyesight is 20/20. The air dam on the Prius is about an inch too
> low.


So according to that logic you inch ahead just far enough to catch the
dam then back off to remove it.

Brilliant.
From: Peter Granzeau on
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:31:05 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:

>Peter Granzeau wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:08:32 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:12:56 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:17:35 -0400, greenpjs(a)neo.rr.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:32:54 -0400, Davoud <star(a)sky.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bzzzzzzt! It's high curbs. Most of us don't drive all that much in
>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania for potholes to be a factor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Davoud
>>>>>> >From my experience, they mostly strike high parking space curbs.
>>>>>>> Regardless, I have never had to replace one. What is the OP doing to
>>>>>>> completely destroy it so often?
>>>>>> The OP (that's me) parks in designated "Handicapped" spaces, which
>>>>>> usually have one of those small(ish) curbs to keep one from knocking
>>>>>> down the "Handicapped" sign. he one that got me this time had a bolt
>>>>>> sticking about 2" higher than the curb itself, intended to keep the curb
>>>>>> in place, but it got me in the air dam and tore it off.
>>>>> With respect, have you had your eyesight checked lately?
>>>> The curb piece is invisible (below line of sight) when pulling in to the
>>>> parking place.
>>>
>>> With respect, if you missed seeing "a bolt sticking about 2" higher than
>>> the curb itself, intended to keep the curbin place, but it got me in the
>>> air dam and tore it off", then you need to either be more aware or have
>>> your eyes checked.
>>
>> I can see the bolt when I start to park. I can not tell when the bumper
>> gets near it because it is by then below my line of sight. There are no
>> index markings on the pavement to either side showing me where the curb
>> is. If it were a real curb/gutter, I would have no problems at all. The
>> entire piece of concrete is hidden be the front of my Prius when I pull
>> into the parking place.
>>
>> My eyesight is 20/20. The air dam on the Prius is about an inch too
>> low.
>
>
>So according to that logic you inch ahead just far enough to catch the
>dam then back off to remove it.

At which point, the dam tears off.
>
>Brilliant.

Indeed.
From: News on
Peter Granzeau wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:31:05 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>
>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:08:32 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:12:56 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:17:35 -0400, greenpjs(a)neo.rr.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:32:54 -0400, Davoud <star(a)sky.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bzzzzzzt! It's high curbs. Most of us don't drive all that much in
>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania for potholes to be a factor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Davoud
>>>>>>> >From my experience, they mostly strike high parking space curbs.
>>>>>>>> Regardless, I have never had to replace one. What is the OP doing to
>>>>>>>> completely destroy it so often?
>>>>>>> The OP (that's me) parks in designated "Handicapped" spaces, which
>>>>>>> usually have one of those small(ish) curbs to keep one from knocking
>>>>>>> down the "Handicapped" sign. he one that got me this time had a bolt
>>>>>>> sticking about 2" higher than the curb itself, intended to keep the curb
>>>>>>> in place, but it got me in the air dam and tore it off.
>>>>>> With respect, have you had your eyesight checked lately?
>>>>> The curb piece is invisible (below line of sight) when pulling in to the
>>>>> parking place.
>>>> With respect, if you missed seeing "a bolt sticking about 2" higher than
>>>> the curb itself, intended to keep the curbin place, but it got me in the
>>>> air dam and tore it off", then you need to either be more aware or have
>>>> your eyes checked.
>>> I can see the bolt when I start to park. I can not tell when the bumper
>>> gets near it because it is by then below my line of sight. There are no
>>> index markings on the pavement to either side showing me where the curb
>>> is. If it were a real curb/gutter, I would have no problems at all. The
>>> entire piece of concrete is hidden be the front of my Prius when I pull
>>> into the parking place.
>>>
>>> My eyesight is 20/20. The air dam on the Prius is about an inch too
>>> low.
>>
>> So according to that logic you inch ahead just far enough to catch the
>> dam then back off to remove it.
>
> At which point, the dam tears off.
>> Brilliant.
>
> Indeed.


And you've done this how many times?
From: Peter Granzeau on
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:53:06 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:

>Peter Granzeau wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:31:05 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:08:32 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:12:56 -0400, News <News(a)Group.Name> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Granzeau wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:17:35 -0400, greenpjs(a)neo.rr.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:32:54 -0400, Davoud <star(a)sky.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bzzzzzzt! It's high curbs. Most of us don't drive all that much in
>>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania for potholes to be a factor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Davoud
>>>>>>>> >From my experience, they mostly strike high parking space curbs.
>>>>>>>>> Regardless, I have never had to replace one. What is the OP doing to
>>>>>>>>> completely destroy it so often?
>>>>>>>> The OP (that's me) parks in designated "Handicapped" spaces, which
>>>>>>>> usually have one of those small(ish) curbs to keep one from knocking
>>>>>>>> down the "Handicapped" sign. he one that got me this time had a bolt
>>>>>>>> sticking about 2" higher than the curb itself, intended to keep the curb
>>>>>>>> in place, but it got me in the air dam and tore it off.
>>>>>>> With respect, have you had your eyesight checked lately?
>>>>>> The curb piece is invisible (below line of sight) when pulling in to the
>>>>>> parking place.
>>>>> With respect, if you missed seeing "a bolt sticking about 2" higher than
>>>>> the curb itself, intended to keep the curbin place, but it got me in the
>>>>> air dam and tore it off", then you need to either be more aware or have
>>>>> your eyes checked.
>>>> I can see the bolt when I start to park. I can not tell when the bumper
>>>> gets near it because it is by then below my line of sight. There are no
>>>> index markings on the pavement to either side showing me where the curb
>>>> is. If it were a real curb/gutter, I would have no problems at all. The
>>>> entire piece of concrete is hidden be the front of my Prius when I pull
>>>> into the parking place.
>>>>
>>>> My eyesight is 20/20. The air dam on the Prius is about an inch too
>>>> low.
>>>
>>> So according to that logic you inch ahead just far enough to catch the
>>> dam then back off to remove it.
>>
>> At which point, the dam tears off.
>>> Brilliant.
>>
>> Indeed.
>
>
>And you've done this how many times?

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