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From: Hachiroku on 23 Feb 2010 09:30 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:50:53 -0600, charlesgrozny wrote: > Guys, the Cash For Clunkers program screwed up the used car market for a > while. > > Thanks Barry Nobama for another useless f***up that didn't really fix > anything. > > Charles Grozny. > Typical...Blame It On Obama...you guys are going to be doing that for years... But then, I'm usually one for placing blame where it is due...
From: charlesgrozny on 23 Feb 2010 11:37 "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:hm0oqb$6dc$3(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:50:53 -0600, charlesgrozny wrote: > >> Guys, the Cash For Clunkers program screwed up the used car market for a >> while. >> >> Thanks Barry Nobama for another useless f***up that didn't really fix >> anything. >> >> Charles Grozny. >> > > Typical...Blame It On Obama...you guys are going to be doing that for > years... > > But then, I'm usually one for placing blame where it is due... > Well then I blame the Three Stooges: Barry Harry and Nancy. The last two passed the Cash for Clunkers law and Barry signed it. Who else you gonna blame? GW Bush sure didn't sign it. Geez Hach, I didn't know you were a Barry supporter. And if you check, the Cash for Clunkers has put a huge BUMP in the distribution of used car prices that will probably take a year or so to settle down. A lot of the less expensive high mpg older cars have shot up in price because of that. Supply and demand determines price. We've cut the supply, so the price goes UP. Something similar was going on in the Carter years. Gas started going up again (within a year the price I was paying shot up from 66.9 to 125.9) so high-mpg used cars were going for pretty close to new if you could find one. I ended up buying new, that's how I got the 1501. Now if I'd wanted to buy a land yacht, I could have probably got one of those fairly cheaply. But I've never needed or wanted a big car. The largest vehicle I've ever owned is a 95 Previa and that was because I lived with my brother who owned a house and needed to haul people and things. Charles Grozny
From: in2dadark on 23 Feb 2010 13:13 On Feb 23, 8:50 am, "charlesgrozny" <n5...(a)sprynet.com> wrote: > Guys, the Cash For Clunkers program screwed up the used car market for a > while. > > Thanks Barry Nobama for another useless f***up that didn't really fix > anything. > > Charles Grozny. > > "C. E. White" <cewhi...(a)mindspring.com> wrote in messagenews:hm0j08$ois$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > > > > > "Ray O" <rokig...(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message > >news:hlvvr3$91q$4(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > >> "Devil's_Advocate" <Devils_Advocate(a)devils_.xyx> wrote in message > >>news:Xns9D27DE1EAFC8CDevilsAdvocatedevils(a)216.196.97.142... > >>> I've been looking, for about a YEAR now locally, to find a Corolla with > >>> less > >>> than 100k miles, with automatic, air conditioning and cruise control. > >>> Dont > >>> care what year, but I want to pay less than $4000 for it, in great > >>> mechanical > >>> condition. > > >>> Cant find one. Looked on Craig's list, seems full of scams. People you > >>> for a week asking to see it, then they answer and claim the car is in > >>> another > >>> state, if you only pay them, they'll ship it free. Sure. > > >>> Is there any competitive car made by Ford or someone, that gets in the > >>> 30-40 > >>> MPG range like the Corolla, with plenty of leg room inside too, that's > >>> available in the parameters I'm looking for? > > >>> I need it for a company car and cant wait any longer. > > >> Your price and accumulated mileage expectations are a pretty tough > >> requirement. You might be able to meet your price, accumulated mileage, > >> and fuel economy expectations with a Ford Focus. > > > The used car market must be tougher than I thought. I did an AutoTrader > > search and found only a rew Foci I would buy that met the criteria, and > > they were all 7 or 8 years old. I was surprised. I figured there would be > > many used compacts for $4000 with less than 100,000 miles. I was wrong. > > Mostly anything that was less than 7 years old with an asking price of > > less than $4,000 had a salvage title. Ouch. What do people on limited > > income buy? Before I spent $4,000 on a seven year old car, I'd have to > > seriously consider buying a new Kia or Hyundai (assuming I could afford > > the payments). > > > Ed- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Can't see how CFC affected the corolla market. Did you just want to turn this into a political thing..
From: SMS on 23 Feb 2010 13:40 Devil's_Advocate wrote: > I've been looking, for about a YEAR now locally, to find a Corolla with less > than 100k miles, with automatic, air conditioning and cruise control. Dont > care what year, but I want to pay less than $4000 for it, in great mechanical > condition. Forget it. There's a big problem with used Corollas and Camrys (and Civics and Accords for that matter). They hold their value so well that you're not likely to find many bargains on them. Even an 8-10 year old Corolla in good condition with less than 100K miles on it is likely to sell for more than that, especially when you're talking about one that has no rust. However you should be able to get something for around $4500-5000. It's hard to say what else will work. A Corolla with 100K miles is barely out of infancy, while most other compacts are going to start requiring expensive repairs at 100K miles. Maybe with all the bad publicity used prices will start falling.
From: Mike Hunter on 23 Feb 2010 13:47
You lived with your brother? We all thought you lived with your Mom. ;) "charlesgrozny" <n5hsr(a)sprynet.com> wrote in message news:sI2dnbs8k5HDmRnWnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:hm0oqb$6dc$3(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:50:53 -0600, charlesgrozny wrote: >> >>> Guys, the Cash For Clunkers program screwed up the used car market for a >>> while. >>> >>> Thanks Barry Nobama for another useless f***up that didn't really fix >>> anything. >>> >>> Charles Grozny. >>> >> >> Typical...Blame It On Obama...you guys are going to be doing that for >> years... >> >> But then, I'm usually one for placing blame where it is due... >> > > Well then I blame the Three Stooges: Barry Harry and Nancy. The last two > passed the Cash for Clunkers law and Barry signed it. Who else you gonna > blame? GW Bush sure didn't sign it. > > Geez Hach, I didn't know you were a Barry supporter. > > And if you check, the Cash for Clunkers has put a huge BUMP in the > distribution of used car prices that will probably take a year or so to > settle down. A lot of the less expensive high mpg older cars have shot > up in price because of that. Supply and demand determines price. We've > cut the supply, so the price goes UP. > > Something similar was going on in the Carter years. Gas started going up > again (within a year the price I was paying shot up from 66.9 to 125.9) so > high-mpg used cars were going for pretty close to new if you could find > one. I ended up buying new, that's how I got the 1501. Now if I'd wanted > to buy a land yacht, I could have probably got one of those fairly > cheaply. But I've never needed or wanted a big car. The largest vehicle > I've ever owned is a 95 Previa and that was because I lived with my > brother who owned a house and needed to haul people and things. > > Charles Grozny > |