From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:43:19 -0800, john wrote:

> "As early as 2004, authorities investigated reports of unintended
> acceleration in Toyota's best-selling model, the Camry.
>
> But the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration looked at incidents
> lasting only 1 second or less.
>
> That limit came after a former official who went to work for Toyota
> shortly before the investigation began was involved in discussions with
> former colleagues at the safety agency, according to documents in a
> lawsuit filed by the estate of Guadalupe Alberto of Flint, who died in
> 2008 when she lost control of her 2005 Camry."
>
> http://www.freep.com/article/20100128/BUSINESS01/1280466/1331/BUSINESS01/Red-flag-raised-on-Camry-as-early-as-2004

DECEMBER 2007 -- GM is recalling 275,936 MY 2005-2007 Cadillac CTS, SRX,
STS, MY 2006-2007 Pontiac Solstice, and MY 2007 Saturn Sky passenger
vehicles. The rear axle pinion seal does not meet all of the
specifications and may experience a fluid leak. A rear differential
failure may cause loss of motive power and possibly loss of vehicle
control increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will replace the pinion
seal. The recall is expected to begin during February 2008. 07V-589
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:43:19 -0800, john wrote:

> "As early as 2004, authorities investigated reports of unintended
> acceleration in Toyota's best-selling model, the Camry.
>
> But the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration looked at
> incidents lasting only 1 second or less.
>
> That limit came after a former official who went to work for Toyota
> shortly before the investigation began was involved in discussions with
> former colleagues at the safety agency, according to documents in a
> lawsuit filed by the estate of Guadalupe Alberto of Flint, who died in
> 2008 when she lost control of her 2005 Camry."
>
> http://www.freep.com/article/20100128/BUSINESS01/1280466/1331/BUSINESS01/Red-flag-raised-on-Camry-as-early-as-2004

NEWS: NHTSA Investigates 2.7 Million GM Trucks, SUVs

Fire hazard probed in 21 models

ConsumerAffairs.com -- June 17, 2008 -- The National Highway Traffic
Safety Administration (NHTSA) has intensified a investigation of 21 models
of General Motors trucks and SUVS manufactured between 2006 and 2008
because of the possibility of an engine compartment fire.

More than 2,700,000 GM trucks and SUVs are the subject of the the
investigation because of the possibility that a fire might erupt inside
the engine compartment, even when the ignition is turned off.

The Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) at the federal safety agency
reported that investigators are now aware of "41 non-crash engine
compartment fires" in the GM trucks and SUVs including 8 fires that may
have caused significant property damage.

The GM vehicles under investigation are:

• Cadillac Escalade ESV and EXT from the 2007 and 2008 model years •
Chevrolet Avalanche 1500 from the 2007 and 2008 model years • 2007
Chevrolet Avalanche 2500
• 2007 Chevrolet Silverado
• Chevrolet Silverado 1500, 2500 and 3500 from the 2007 and 2008 •
Chevrolet Suburban 1500 and 2500 from the 2007 and 2008 model •
Chevrolet Tahoe from the 2007 and 2008 models year • 2008 GMC Sierra,
• GMC Sierra 1500, 2500 and 3500 from the 2007 and 2008 model years •
2007 GMC Sierra Classic
• 2007 GMC Silverado, GMC Yukon from the 2007 and 2008 model years •
GMC Yukon XL 1500, XL 2500 from the 2007 and 2008 model years • Hummer
H2 from the 2006 to 2007 model years • 2008 Hummer H2 Utility, and
•the Hummer H2 from the 2006 to 2008 model

"GM provided ODI with 41 allegations of non-crash engine compartment fires
including 16 allegations of fires origination with the ignition in the off
position," according to the NHTSA Web site
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:43:19 -0800, john wrote:

> "As early as 2004, authorities investigated reports of unintended
> acceleration in Toyota's best-selling model, the Camry.
>
> But the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration looked at
> incidents lasting only 1 second or less.
>
> That limit came after a former official who went to work for Toyota
> shortly before the investigation began was involved in discussions with
> former colleagues at the safety agency, according to documents in a
> lawsuit filed by the estate of Guadalupe Alberto of Flint, who died in
> 2008 when she lost control of her 2005 Camry."
>
> http://www.freep.com/article/20100128/BUSINESS01/1280466/1331/BUSINESS01/Red-flag-raised-on-Camry-as-early-as-2004

NEWS: Feds Probe Fire Complaints in Chevy Tahoe, GMC Yukon

ConsumerAffairs.Com -- February 9, 2008 -- The National Highway Traffic
Safety Administration (NHTSA) is investigating two consumer complaints
that 2007 Chevrolet Tahoes and GMC Yukons caught fire while parked in home
garages with the engines off.

The truck owners reported to NHTSA that both homes were badly damaged and
two people were injured in one of the fires.

The NHTSA Office of Defect Investigations as open a preliminary
investigation of both vehicles that could eventually lead to a recall of
the SUVs. The agency estimates as many as 400,000 vehicles would be
affected if a defect is identified and a recall ordered.

The General Motors SUVs are not equipped with the type of cruise control
system that causes a fire in Ford Motor Co. cars and trucks. Ford has
recalled more than 10 million vehicles because of a fire danger.

NHTSA also reported on its web site that a preliminary investigation is
under way of 2006 Lamborghini Gallardos following three reports of fires.
There are 600 of the Gallardos cars on U.S. roads.
From: Vic Smith on
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:47:29 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
wrote:

You remind me of the sorry politicians running the country.
Bush did it! Clinton did it!
Just post a bunch of cut and paste "talking points" instead of some
actual thought in your own words.
You have disappointed me.
But I'll survive (-"

--Vic

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:56:59 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:47:29 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>
> You remind me of the sorry politicians running the country. Bush did it!
> Clinton did it!
> Just post a bunch of cut and paste "talking points" instead of some actual
> thought in your own words.
> You have disappointed me.
> But I'll survive (-"
>
> --Vic

I'm just getting tired of "john" posting about 1 recall 587,972 times!

WE KNOW ABOUT IT ALREADY!!! WE probably knew about it before he did!

Damn! Talk about beating an issue into the ground! Fine! John doesn't like
Toyotas. My advice:

DON'T BUY ONE!!!!!!!!!

Posting the same basic bullshit post across the Toyota groups is getting
tired.

Toyota will resolve the issue. Toyota has done something American
manufacturers don't so: they halted sales of their best selling units.
Rather than leaving them on the lot and "we'll figure it out after the
sales are made", they're taking a proactive approcah and grounding the
fleet. It could be argued this is costing them a LOT more than selling the
cars and then recalling them.

And since Toytota is a Japanese company interested in 'saving face', I
wouldn't expect another recall of this caliber for a long, long time,
regardless if it was their fault or a supplier's.


I used to work for a manufacturer that made space suits. We had something
like a first piece inspection for vendors, and then subsequent 'sampling'
of further similar parts from that manufacturer.

In 1987, an astronaut was suiting up for a mission and as he was the
mission was scrubbed. He was taking the suit off and he noticed something
about the buckle. Something was not right, and it had to do with the
connector in the buckle that connected the life support functions. If NASA
had not scrubbed the EVA, he would have died.

The company rescinded their 'sampling' for vendors in all aspects of the
EMU program, and ALL parts being used for EMUs were thereafter inspected
100%.

Now, I don't expect Toyota do go to this drastic a method, but I'll be you
their quality control will be tightened up quite a bit, and more than any
degree that GM has ever done.