Bias Against Domestic Cars
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From: Ray O on 10 Jan 2010 18:27 "Ed Pawlowski" <esp(a)snet.net> wrote in message news:UcSdncaaIb90_NfWnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > Ray O wrote: > >> Some food for thought: in the context of a vehicle sold in the U.S, >> are these cars "domestic" or something else? >> >> 1970's Mercury Capri, produced in Germany >> Late model Ford Crown Victoria produced in Ontario, Canada >> Chevrolet HHR produced in the U.S. with 65% parts from Mexico but >> labeled as 85% domestic content because GM averages parts from larger >> SUV's How about a Camry produced in Kentucky with 80% domestic content >> vs. >> a Ford Taurus >> 2004-2006 Pontiac GTO, produced in Australia >> Pontiac Vibe produced by NUMMI in the U.S. vs. Toyota Matrix? > > That is the fodder for many pissing contests, especially in the past year > or so since the auto industry bombed. We should be buying the "best" car > that suits us. It may be US built or it may not be. Automakers should be > making what customers want in order to make the highest sales. Government > should stay out of it. > I'm with you there! -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: clare on 10 Jan 2010 22:12 On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:34:52 -0500, "Indrek Aavisto" <nospamaavisto(a)cyberbeach.net> wrote: >>>Firenza or Geo anyone? >c> Did you ever OWN a Firenza??? >c> I did. >c> Quite possibly the best dollar for dollar deal I ever made, and I got >c> more for it than I paid for it when I sold it about 6 years later, >c> and the new owner drove it at least 5 more years. It wnt to the >c> scrapyard looking basically as good as when I bought it, because we >c> could not get a required part for the steering rack without ordering >c> it from Britain. > >c> That car was virtually trouble free - the only "GM" vehicle I've >c> owned >c> that I could say that about with a straight face. >c> I DID service it as a British car - which means it DOES require >c> regular minor maintenance. > >HMM, > >I bought a brand new Firenza in 1969 and sold it after less than a year. It >was a total POC which left me stranded on the roadside on several >occasions. No fun in 20 below, I can assure you. The car had a so called >"high performance" engine. With the accelerator floored it had trouble >mainting 50m.p.h. up the slightest incline. > >Cheers, > >Indrek Aavisto Mine was the 2300 engine ( 1972) which I switched to dual carbs and it towed a heavy "rainbow" tent trailer to Sydney Nova Scotia and back, and climbed mount washington without ever going below second gear - It was no race car, but it's performance was decent and it NEVER let me down except for when the timing belt broke just south of Sydney in 77? when it was almost 6 years old. Fixed it on the side of the road. The clutch pedal gave out about 2 or 3 years later - the part was only $7 - and it failed in such a way as to warn me before it became undriveable.
From: hls on 11 Jan 2010 09:12 "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:tES1n.4860 > > I bet most Toyota's don't even make them too the lot, family hand me > downs. Parents drive it for 14 years and 200,000 on the odo then give it > to the kids or keep it as a second car. I have been trying to help a friend find one for his wife for the last month or so. Within a 200 mile search radius, there has been nothing on the market recently. He wanted a minivan or SUV for her. There are of course Chrysler products and some GM.
From: SMS on 11 Jan 2010 09:34 Canuck57 wrote: > I bet most Toyota's don't even make them too the lot, family hand me > downs. Parents drive it for 14 years and 200,000 on the odo then give > it to the kids or keep it as a second car. This has been the case in our family. The 1996 Camry with only 140,000 miles is becoming the daughter-unit's car. She really wanted a 2010 red Porsche, but she'll settle for a Camry. Ditto with Hondas. When a sister-in-law bought a CR-V, she gave her old Accord to two nieces that are new drivers. What's surprising is just how much those 10-15 year old Accords and Camrys still fetch on the private party used market. You'd think that a 15 year old car would sell for under $1000, but that's not the case. Those third generation Camrys (1992-1996) are selling for as much as $5000. That was a very good generation, before a lot of the decontenting started. That's what it's like in Northern California anyway. My brother in law is a mechanic and he gets people bringing in private party used cars for a check before purchasing them. He asks how much they're paying for the used car and is amazed at the high prices for 10 year old Acuras, Toyotas, and Hondas. Remember that the nearly all of used Toyotas and Hondas that you see on the Ford or GM dealer's used car lot did not come from trade-ins for new cars from that dealer. They were brought in from other dealers or purchased from fleets like rental car fleets.
From: Ashton Crusher on 11 Jan 2010 20:53
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:12:10 -0600, "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > >"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:tES1n.4860 >> >> I bet most Toyota's don't even make them too the lot, family hand me >> downs. Parents drive it for 14 years and 200,000 on the odo then give it >> to the kids or keep it as a second car. > >I have been trying to help a friend find one for his wife for the last month >or so. Within a 200 mile search radius, there has been nothing on the >market recently. > >He wanted a minivan or SUV for her. There are of course Chrysler products >and some GM. Go look at a PT cruiser. You can get them new cheap and they are quite nice inside. Has all the utility of an SUV. You save enough money on the purchase price to more then pay for an extended warranty if you want one. |