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From: edspyhill01 on 1 Aug 2010 08:43 On Jul 31, 4:49 pm, Clive <cl...(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In message <4c5485f4$0$74748$afc38...(a)read01.usenet4all.se>, > =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> > writes>When you die, you leave an estate. Our great President, Geroge Bush*, > >removed the estate taxes from ALL estates. The Liberals want to reimpose > >it; they say only on estates of $3-4M or more. That's what they say. > > I understand now, over here they're called "Death Duties" and come in > much lower than yours, I think at about 150,000UKP, BICBW. > -- > Clive What you don't know is that there are thousands of tax loopholes that are are implemented to lower the taxable amount long before a person figures out how much to pay in taxes. What is considered taxable Estate money is what is left after business transfers, gifts, bequests, charity to the old school, things we can't know. Who gets taxed are the people with little or no business or family connections to the Estate in question. Trust me, the tax percentages on the books are bogus, mainly because the Congressmen and Senators who write and modify these laws are rich and worth millions. They write the laws to protect themselves and their wealth. You may ask why would poor people and middles class rabidly support tax laws that have a negative effect on their meager wealth. The republicans and neo-cons have convinced the great unwashed to think "I could get rich tomorrow". Yeah, right. America is a wild west town that disarms the town folk but lets the gunslingers walk around armed and dangerous.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 1 Aug 2010 09:55 On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:31:01 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote: > On Jul 31, 4:17 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:17:06 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote: >> > On Jul 31, 11:00 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:10:58 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote: >> >> > On Jul 30, 8:58 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >> >> No wonder it's costing ~$5M >> >> >> > It's their money, and even if the Clintons are Democrats, they run >> >> > with the upper crust. I know if it was a republican's daughter >> >> > spending the same amount it would not be news. The rich are different >> >> > than us. >> >> >> ED! Read what you just said, please! >> >> >> If it were a Republican's daughter, we'd be hearing about it, OK, and what >> >> a tremendous waste of money it was. You know it. Why, that money could >> >> have been used to save the canker worm from Arizona tractors! >> >> > Oh horse hockey. Anyone who makes money by working hard (mentally, >> > physically, time-wise) can spend it any way they want. >> >> That's not what the Liberals tell us, Ed. They have real trouble with rich >> people.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > We have trouble with rich people paying less in tax by percentage than > us in the great unwashed group. And, you don't think the Clintons are in that group? When John Kerry made his tax returns available, on the state form he had NOT checked, "pay tax based on the higher rate." (they actually have a selection that allows you to pay MORE tax in Mass than the standard 5.25% rate!)
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 1 Aug 2010 09:59 On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:29:09 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote: >> I understand now, over here they're called "Death Duties" and come in >> much lower than yours, I think at about 150,000UKP, BICBW. >> -- >> Clive > > Yes, according to republicans, the only people who should pay taxes > are poor people. Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. I made a mistake on my Mass tax form and they're hounding me for $400, now up to $1,425 with 'penalties and interest'. I forgot to take a deduction that would have made it so they owe ME money, and they're hounding me like I was Rockefeller. I was unemployed most of that year and made $9700....
From: edspyhill01 on 1 Aug 2010 11:27 On Aug 1, 9:55 am, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:31:01 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote: > > On Jul 31, 4:17 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:17:06 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote: > >> > On Jul 31, 11:00 am, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> >> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:10:58 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote: > >> >> > On Jul 30, 8:58 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> >> >> No wonder it's costing ~$5M > > >> >> > It's their money, and even if the Clintons are Democrats, they run > >> >> > with the upper crust. I know if it was a republican's daughter > >> >> > spending the same amount it would not be news. The rich are different > >> >> > than us. > > >> >> ED! Read what you just said, please! > > >> >> If it were a Republican's daughter, we'd be hearing about it, OK, and what > >> >> a tremendous waste of money it was. You know it. Why, that money could > >> >> have been used to save the canker worm from Arizona tractors! > > >> > Oh horse hockey. Anyone who makes money by working hard (mentally, > >> > physically, time-wise) can spend it any way they want. > > >> That's not what the Liberals tell us, Ed. They have real trouble with rich > >> people.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > We have trouble with rich people paying less in tax by percentage than > > us in the great unwashed group. > > And, you don't think the Clintons are in that group? > > When John Kerry made his tax returns available, on the state form he had > NOT checked, "pay tax based on the higher rate." > > (they actually have a selection that allows you to pay MORE tax in Mass > than the standard 5.25% rate!)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Why would you expect a democrat to voluntarily pay a higher tax rate but not a republican?
From: edspyhill01 on 1 Aug 2010 11:29 On Aug 1, 9:59 am, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:29:09 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote: > >> I understand now, over here they're called "Death Duties" and come in > >> much lower than yours, I think at about 150,000UKP, BICBW. > >> -- > >> Clive > > > Yes, according to republicans, the only people who should pay taxes > > are poor people. > > Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. > > I made a mistake on my Mass tax form and they're hounding me for $400, now > up to $1,425 with 'penalties and interest'. I forgot to take a deduction > that would have made it so they owe ME money, and they're hounding me like > I was Rockefeller. > > I was unemployed most of that year and made $9700.... I'm talking federal taxes. The states are out of control trying to find money for the retirement payouts and royal medical coverage for state, local, and teacher retirees. You are taling $400.00 compared to millions.
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