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From: Jeff Strickland on 19 Oct 2009 19:49

"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.10.19.19.51.46.362585(a)e86.GTS...
>> Someone Beck had on (I think) Friday said the "CIA was created after
>> WWII..." to spy on countries and overthrow unfriendly governments
>> (paraphrase on the second half...).
>>
>> *WRONG*!!!!!!!!
>>
>> The CIA was created very shortly following the aftermath of the attack on
>> Pearl Harbor.
>>
>> During the investigation, it was discovered the Army had certain
>> information, and the Navy had certain information, and that if that
>> information had been combined, correlated and analyzed, the Navy would
>> have known of the attack about a month before it happened. One high
>> ranking officer had even estimated the attack for the last Sunday in
>> November, one week before the actual attack.
>>
>> The CIA was created as a clearing house for such information so as to
>> ensure such an attack didn't happen again, and to correlate information
>> between branches of the Armed Forces and other government agencies.
>>
>> so there.
>
>
> You should type slower than your brain works. That should be easy for you.
>

We'd have to stop typing if we typed slower than your brain works. Sheesh!

You should think about adding to the discussion instead of just talking.






From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 19 Oct 2009 20:23
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:49:48 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:

>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:Cn6Dm.7477$MZ1.6315(a)newsfe11.iad...
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2009.10.19.19.51.46.362585(a)e86.GTS...
>>> Someone Beck had on (I think) Friday said the "CIA was created after
>>> WWII..." to spy on countries and overthrow unfriendly governments
>>> (paraphrase on the second half...).
>>>
>>> *WRONG*!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> The CIA was created very shortly following the aftermath of the attack
>>> on Pearl Harbor.
>>>
>>> During the investigation, it was discovered the Army had certain
>>> information, and the Navy had certain information, and that if that
>>> information had been combined, correlated and analyzed, the Navy would
>>> have known of the attack about a month before it happened. One high
>>> ranking officer had even estimated the attack for the last Sunday in
>>> November, one week before the actual attack.
>>>
>>> The CIA was created as a clearing house for such information so as to
>>> ensure such an attack didn't happen again, and to correlate information
>>> between branches of the Armed Forces and other government agencies.
>>>
>>> so there.
>>
>>
>> You should type slower than your brain works. That should be easy for
>> you.
>>
>>
> We'd have to stop typing if we typed slower than your brain works. Sheesh!
>
> You should think about adding to the discussion instead of just talking.

Never happen.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 19 Oct 2009 20:26
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:31:34 -0700, larry moe 'n curly wrote:

>
>
> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:07:49 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote:
>>
>> Someone Beck had on (I think) Friday said the "CIA was created after
>> WWII..." to spy on countries and overthrow unfriendly governments
>> (paraphrase on the second half...).
>>
>> *WRONG*!!!!!!!!
>>
>> The CIA was created very shortly following the aftermath of the attack
>> on Pearl Harbor.
>
>> > Me thinks you may be thinking of the wrong agency. My memory is a
>> > bit rusty but If I am correct that agency was called the SAS, or
>> > something like that, during WWII. The SAS was then morphed into the
>> > CIA when it was create after WWII, but the CIA was not allowed to
>> > interact with any other government agency WITHIN the US, it could only
>> > operate outside of the US, until the Patriot Act was enacted after 9
>> > /11 and remained after the Patriot Act was continued by further action
>> > in Congress.
>>
>> OSS!!! I think the SAS was the Nazi equivalent!!!! ;)
>>
>> Yes, it was the OSS first, and then the OSS was kind of split, with one
>> half becoming the CIA.
>>
>> Before the OSS was the CIO, but they were, OBVIOUSLY ineffectual!
>
> "Wild Bill" Donovan was head of the OSS, which was formed during WWII.
> The CIA was created a few years after WWII, under authority of the
> National Security Act, which also established the Dept. of Defense.
>
> I don't know what the Nazis called their intelligence agencies, but SAS
> also stands for Special Air Service, one of the British special forces
> (they also have the Special Boat Service).
>
> Is this the first time your opinions have been stronger than your facts?
> ;)

In essence, the CIA was formed immediately following Pearl Harbor, but was
called the OSS. The mission was the same: take information from the
various branches of the Armed Services and combine it and glean the
details.

It's the same as the AEC and the NRC. Same function, different name.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 19 Oct 2009 20:27
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:37:07 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

>> Is this the first time your opinions have been stronger than your facts?
>> ;)
>
>
> The facts were not on cable TV at the moment when he needed to write his
> little essay. So he just reached into the back of his pants and.....

I reached into the back of my *BRAIN* from a BOOK I read over 20 years ago.

Closer to the target than you have been.



From: JoeSpareBedroom on 19 Oct 2009 21:28
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> In essence,......


Get a bigger shovel.


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