From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
Someone Beck had on (I think) Friday said the "CIA was created after
WWII..." to spy on countries and overthrow unfriendly governments
(paraphrase on the second half...).

*WRONG*!!!!!!!!

The CIA was created very shortly following the aftermath of the attack on
Pearl Harbor.

During the investigation, it was discovered the Army had certain
information, and the Navy had certain information, and that if that
information had been combined, correlated and analyzed, the Navy would
have known of the attack about a month before it happened. One high
ranking officer had even estimated the attack for the last Sunday in
November, one week before the actual attack.

The CIA was created as a clearing house for such information so as to
ensure such an attack didn't happen again, and to correlate information
between branches of the Armed Forces and other government agencies.

so there.


From: Mike Hunter on
Me thinks you may be thinking of the wrong agency. My memory is a bit
rusty but If I am correct that agency was called the SAS, or something like
that, during WWII. The SAS was then morphed into the CIA when it was
create after WWII, but the CIA was not allowed to interact with any other
government agency WITHIN the US, it could only operate outside of the US,
until the Patriot Act was enacted after 9 /11 and remained after the Patriot
Act was continued by further action in Congress.




"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.10.19.19.51.46.362585(a)e86.GTS...
> Someone Beck had on (I think) Friday said the "CIA was created after
> WWII..." to spy on countries and overthrow unfriendly governments
> (paraphrase on the second half...).
>
> *WRONG*!!!!!!!!
>
> The CIA was created very shortly following the aftermath of the attack on
> Pearl Harbor.
>
> During the investigation, it was discovered the Army had certain
> information, and the Navy had certain information, and that if that
> information had been combined, correlated and analyzed, the Navy would
> have known of the attack about a month before it happened. One high
> ranking officer had even estimated the attack for the last Sunday in
> November, one week before the actual attack.
>
> The CIA was created as a clearing house for such information so as to
> ensure such an attack didn't happen again, and to correlate information
> between branches of the Armed Forces and other government agencies.
>
> so there.
>
>
>


From: ron on
Sorry 86, but OSS was the fore runner of the CIA OSS was Alan Dulles's
turf - I believe he was later also first CIA director.

I imagine CIA was created in about 46. Google it as I ain't sure.

(No I was attached to NSA while in the army, not CIA)

Ron in Idaho

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:10:52 -0700, ron wrote:

> Sorry 86, but OSS was the fore runner of the CIA OSS was Alan Dulles's
> turf - I believe he was later also first CIA director.
>
> I imagine CIA was created in about 46. Google it as I ain't sure.
>
> (No I was attached to NSA while in the army, not CIA)
>
> Ron in Idaho

One thing I'm not often wrong on, Ron, is things concerning Pearl Harbor!
(So why do I have a yard full of Japanese cars?)

The Office of Strategic Services was established by a Presidential
military order issued by President Roosevelt on 13 June 1942, to collect
and analyze strategic information required by the Joint Chiefs of Staff
and to conduct special operations not assigned to other agencies. During
the War, the OSS supplied policy makers with facts and estimates, but the
OSS never had jurisdiction over all foreign intelligence activities. The
FBI was responsible for intelligence work in Latin America, and the Army
and Navy guarded their areas of responsibility.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:07:49 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote:

> Me thinks you may be thinking of the wrong agency. My memory is a bit
> rusty but If I am correct that agency was called the SAS, or something
> like that, during WWII. The SAS was then morphed into the CIA when it
> was create after WWII, but the CIA was not allowed to interact with any
> other government agency WITHIN the US, it could only operate outside of
> the US, until the Patriot Act was enacted after 9 /11 and remained after
> the Patriot Act was continued by further action in Congress.

OSS!!! I think the SAS was the Nazi equivalent!!!! ;)

Yes, it was the OSS first, and then the OSS was kind of split, with one
half becoming the CIA.

Before the OSS was the CIO, but they were, OBVIOUSLY ineffectual!



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> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.10.19.19.51.46.362585(a)e86.GTS...
>> Someone Beck had on (I think) Friday said the "CIA was created after
>> WWII..." to spy on countries and overthrow unfriendly governments
>> (paraphrase on the second half...).
>>
>> *WRONG*!!!!!!!!
>>
>> The CIA was created very shortly following the aftermath of the attack
>> on Pearl Harbor.
>>
>> During the investigation, it was discovered the Army had certain
>> information, and the Navy had certain information, and that if that
>> information had been combined, correlated and analyzed, the Navy would
>> have known of the attack about a month before it happened. One high
>> ranking officer had even estimated the attack for the last Sunday in
>> November, one week before the actual attack.
>>
>> The CIA was created as a clearing house for such information so as to
>> ensure such an attack didn't happen again, and to correlate information
>> between branches of the Armed Forces and other government agencies.
>>
>> so there.
>>
>>
>>
>>